EXPECT MAJOR SPOILERS IN THE COMMENTS!!

Marvel Studios Avengers Infinity War is the latest Marvel Super Hero thing to punch the box office right in the face. If as a kid you wondered if there could ever be a comic book movie with all your favorite heroes this is the answer. Infinity War is the follow up to damn near every MCU film but more sequentially Thor Ragnarok and Black Panther.

This one is coming quickly after the last episode but we wanted to get it out early while it's still fresh in everyone's minds.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/07/2018 at 07:08pm

Ok, I'm like 10 mins in, and I need to comment before you get to Infinity War and I forget lol

I'm not sure if I'm digging Westworld as much. I think it's second season is suffering the same way Legion's second season is, in that the first season of both were AMAZING and it's hard to live up to, and then exceed those expectations.

Also, John Mulaney might be my favorite comedian ever. He's probably not, as there's a ton of comedians I love, and I just recently watched his most recent Netflix special "Kid Gorgeous" (which is amazing). What I'm saying is: Jon is wrong to not like John Mulaney ;)

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/07/2018 at 07:44pm

As far as needing context from the other movies, one of my daughters completely uninterested in Marvel movies (I did talk her into Spiderman and the first Guardians of the Galaxy movies), but for some reason she wanted to see Infinity War (pretty sure she was sucked into the BIGGEST MOVIE EVENT EVER hype around lol). She had an idea who most of the characters were, but no backstory nor investment in them, and she was crying at the end of the movie. So whilst seeing the other movies defentely makes this a deeper experience, it can be enjoyable walking into blind. (My wife also couldn't really care less about the MCU, but we dragged her along and she liked the movie as well).

(My other daughter is into nerdery and all (Star Wars, MCU, etc, and she loved the movie, just fyi lol)

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/07/2018 at 08:18pm

As far as "How does Marvel top this?" I think they totally keep going with the Phase 4, 5, 6 plans. I don't think the next few years needs to have a movie this "big," but eventually that's totally possible. There are some insanely powerful characters, that done right, could be really good for a huge team up movie.

Marvel needs to work on a few X-Men movies that exist in the MCU, then bring *everybody* together (and the Fantastic Four) to fight someone like Galactus.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/07/2018 at 08:43pm

Hmmm, thinking about the Top 3 Marvel movies, I'd have to say Infinity War, Spiderman and... maybe Iron Man. It's been a while since I've seen that one.

Travis   Admin   Member   Post Author wrote on 05/07/2018 at 08:44pm

I am as into season 2 of Legion as I was in the first season. Maybe not as much for Westworld but I kinda feel like it’s building to something and may just have a slower burn.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/07/2018 at 08:46pm

Recently, I *loved* the Legion episode about Sydney.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/07/2018 at 08:48pm

Great idea about Ant-Man's end credits! I wonder if he or Wasp start disappearing, and they somehow evade it by shrinking down into the quantum realm?

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/07/2018 at 08:49pm

I feel like I live tweeted about this discussion as I was listening. Sorry that that makes it hard to respond to me lol

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/07/2018 at 09:56pm

I think "Subverting Expectations" is just a RLM (specifically Mike) comment on the movie.

PS, I listened to your discussion about the movie before the RLM discussion! Feel honored!

Will_Ball   Game Mod   Member wrote on 05/07/2018 at 10:32pm

I loved Infinity War. I haven't been this jazzed for a Marvel movie since Iron Man 1 and Avengers. I have really enjoyed all the MCU movies, but they have begun to fell a little bit derivative with there being no stakes in the movies for the main heroes. I felt this movie flipped that. They set the tone right from the start on what this movie would be like. I also enjoyed Thanos and thought they did a great job giving him dimension rather than being a one-note villain.

I would love to go into spoilers, but I don't want to spoil it in the comments.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/08/2018 at 12:08am

*Major Spoilers*



When Starlord shot Gamora (or at least tried), Thanos said "I like you." One of my main complaints with Infinity War was everyone's reluctance to sacrifice for the good of the universe (especially Cap and Crew with Vision), but Starlord was willing to sacrifice his love to save the universe, which, in Thanos's eyes, is the same thing he was willing to do.

Travis   Admin   Member   Post Author wrote on 05/08/2018 at 01:30am

I just added a spoiler warning to the post. Feel free to spoil away!

jdodson   Admin   Member wrote on 05/08/2018 at 05:46am

> What I'm saying is: Jon is wrong to not like John Mulaney ;)

Happy to be wrong about that smile With that, he is quite funny just wasn't my style in that moment maybe it's more than that? I don't know.

jdodson   Admin   Member wrote on 05/09/2018 at 03:40am

Anyone have any thoughts where they are headed for Infinity War 2? I've heard the directors talk about some stuff that is major spoilers for the next movie, so I won't mention that but I think they are going to wrap things up well enough. I also hope that for the Avengers that won't be coming back, at least in the near future, that they send them off well. No idea who that is but it seems people think Cap and Iron Man might be departing this life.

Will_Ball   Game Mod   Member wrote on 05/09/2018 at 06:13am

Captain Marvel will join the team. I like a fan theory that Captain America will sacrifice himself to save Tony Stark. Hawkeye will be back to kick some ass. We will find out why Hulk doesn’t want to join the party. Movie ends with Tony and Pepper getting married.

Travis   Admin   Member   Post Author wrote on 05/09/2018 at 12:54pm

I like the theory you mention Will. I could absolutely imagine that happening, and it would be a good out for Tony to pass the torch and still leave it open for guest appearances.

Will_Ball   Game Mod   Member wrote on 05/09/2018 at 02:16pm

Not only does it leave Tony open for guest appearances (Robert Downey Jr. got $10 million for 8 minutes in spider-man, he doesn’t want to turn down that scratch) but it also wraps up the Captain America/Tony Stark story line really well.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/09/2018 at 04:35pm

I really like Will's theories. I'm thinking Adam Warlock will likely be a part of the movie. In fact, it would be cool to mirror Infinity War, which was Thanos's movie, with Avengers 4 as an Adam Warlock movie.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/09/2018 at 04:40pm

Actually, since the directors have said AW isn't going to be in this movie (I'm still holding out hope that he is), it's probably more likely he's coming in Gaurdian's Vol 3.

jdodson   Admin   Member wrote on 05/11/2018 at 03:46am

I like that Will and hope something like it happens. I'd love for Tony to keep kicking around the MCU even if he only shows up a handful of times or practically never. But if Cap dies does he really die? What if in 20 years he doesn't mind coming back does someone clone him? I heart comic book movies for doing whatever they want.

Travis   Admin   Member   Post Author wrote on 05/11/2018 at 08:58pm

In the comics Bucky took over as Cap for a while, maybe until a reboot? I’d imagine they could easily do that as long as Bucky sticks around. And if he wants to come back on 20 years, we have a few characters and devices that can literally rewrite reality so there are plenty of options.

Nobody is ever really dead in comics and the same probably holds true for comic movies. But they may be replaced with different actors when they come back.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/11/2018 at 10:14pm

Yeah, you can always find the character from another dimension lol. Then you can have the exact same actor play a different version of himself/herself (my favorite example is all the Harrison Wells in the CW show Flash: http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/Harrison_Wells ) or another actor playing a similar version of the character (who doesn't want to see Throg? A frog version of Thor).

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/11/2018 at 10:16pm

https://youtu.be/9cIr4Cml-kg
An example of multiple Harrison Wells' lol

Travis   Admin   Member   Post Author wrote on 05/11/2018 at 10:54pm

I have many problems with The Flash, especially this season, but Harrison Wells is always a delight.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/11/2018 at 10:56pm

The Flash is the last watchable DC show for me, but I hear ya. (Not counting Black Lightning. I think I really like it, but lost track of it and need to pick it up again on Netflix sometime)

Travis   Admin   Member   Post Author wrote on 05/13/2018 at 04:32pm

We are going to watch that John Mulaney special today. I don’t know much about him honestly but he did one of my favorite stand up bits ever:

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/plvv4v/comedy-central-presents-what-s-new--pussycat-

Travis   Admin   Member   Post Author wrote on 05/13/2018 at 07:15pm

We watched John Mulaney’s new special and adored it. I am right there with you, Adam, I’d put him in my top tier of comedians. I can absolutely understand how people might not like his style though.

We also watched this year’s Hilarity for Charity and it was mostly ok the whole way through with a few highlights. It took a while though. The sketches fell very flat for me, especially the prolonged 10 minute dick joke at the start. The only sketch that worked for me was Jeff Goldblum’s but I mean... it’s Goldblum. I’d be shocked if it didn’t work. Mulaney was my favorite part by a long shot. I’m normally kinda hot and cold on Sarah Silverman but I loved her bit. And Tiffany Haddish is funny just by existing.

jdodson   Admin   Member wrote on 05/14/2018 at 01:44am

> It took a while though. The sketches fell very flat for me, especially the prolonged 10 minute dick joke at the start

Yeah it took a couple of watch sessions to complete. I liked most of it but some of it dragged a bit.

> Mulaney was my favorite part by a long shot. I’m normally kinda hot and cold on Sarah Silverman but I loved her bit. And Tiffany Haddish is funny just by existing.

Mulaney had a great couple minute set there. Maybe I should watch his new special, my comments were about the old one that didn't really work for me.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/15/2018 at 05:48pm

https://twitter.com/McJesse/status/996198724723527680
A video of Dr Strange at a waterpark lol

jdodson   Admin   Member wrote on 05/16/2018 at 01:23am

#worthit

Travis   Admin   Member   Post Author wrote on 06/15/2018 at 03:21am

I'm necroing this post because Legion just finished up and we're in the home stretch of Westworld. I think the first part of Westworld was a bit of a slump to get the new plot moving but boy has it ever picked up.

Legion.... eeeehhhhhhhh I'm mixed on it. It was ok, but I felt like the first season had the perfect plot-to-weird balance and this season slipped further into weird at the expense of story. The finale left me wanting more but a little disappointed in some lazy writing choices.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 06/15/2018 at 02:03pm

I agree. There have been some really interesting individual episodes of Legion, but I have trouble getting reinterested enough to watch the next episode (I've still not watched this week's episode. I didn't realize it's the finale)

Westworld has been good, I agree that it's taken some time to really ramp up, but it's a great ride :)

Travis   Admin   Member   Post Author wrote on 06/15/2018 at 02:57pm

I’m interested in hearing your thoughts when you get done with it.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 06/16/2018 at 05:34am

DUDE, I just finished it. I loved every second of the finale! The beginning fight was comic book perfection, then the end is kinda what I've been waiting for for the entire 2 seasons lol. Some of these episodes probably could have been condensed, but wow. That was a great payoff And cliffhanger lol. I take back what I've said before and TOTALLY recommend everyone watch Legion.

(I had the added benefit of watching this on my phone. I had the brightness turn up to the max and my headphones on, so all the trippy parts we amplified lol)

(I'm going to go watch that beginning fight again now!)

Travis   Admin   Member   Post Author wrote on 06/16/2018 at 05:50am

There are three things I don't like about the ending and I'll be as vague as possible to avoid spoilers.

1. That one person who was present at the end who reeeeeally shouldn't be out and about.

2. It's just a bit tropey. There's a good guy who is a bad guy... or is he? Yes, he is... ooooooor is heeeee?

3. There was a bit of a lack of tact in the writing for what he did to Sid.

1 and 2 at least could be machinations of a certain character influencing people. A lot of how I feel about the finale will depend on how next season tackles it.

BUT overall I definitely agree with you about it and yeah, that initial fight scene was some of the best trippy stuff we've seen!

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