Gabe did an interview with The Verge recently about the Steam console, Steambox, Piston, Bigfoot, whatever you want to call it. Read it here:

It's an interesting read, and the fact that they're building this platform, this paradigm, that anyone can pull from makes me very happy. Hopefully the fact that anyone can make a Steam "console" doesn't muddy the waters. It's one thing that has held Linux back, the confusing variety, but if Valve can pull this off it may change the way we game in some significant ways.

Travis   Admin   Post Author wrote on 01/09/2013 at 01:53pm

Tungsten, looks like quickmeme blocks sharing like that with a transparent gif overlay.

SignalWarden wrote on 01/09/2013 at 08:35pm

I think as long as the variety exists in the hardware and not the software/UI it shouldn't be an issue. It would basically be following the Android model, which works quite well. In my opinion market competition can only be good in cases like this.

Tungsten wrote on 01/10/2013 at 01:43am
Travis   Admin   Post Author wrote on 01/10/2013 at 01:58am

Much better! And I agree! :)

jdodson   Admin wrote on 01/10/2013 at 01:58am

This is a great interview, thanks for posting. I have been reading a lot of "ho hum" and opinions that seem to think this is a mistake Valve is making. I will put some of my chips firmly in the "this will be a game changer" bucket. I know, I should be cynical but I am not, this is what I want, so like Tungsten I am excited.

SignalWarden wrote on 01/10/2013 at 05:27pm

I'm not going to lie. I hate corporations and consider them my enemy. Google won't charm me and I'll never have both a Coke AND a smile. But I'll say this... Valve totally won me over. I want to have Valve over for dinner and I'd totally watch Valve's dog while their away. I can't envision Valve making a move that is not a sound one. I'm stoked for this and if it were a single company trying to make a Steam box, I'd think, "This won't work" but if you fill the market with options, people will take notice and it will become successful. I'm very excited to see how this all pans out.

Travis   Admin   Post Author wrote on 01/10/2013 at 06:41pm

"I want to have Valve over for dinner and I'd totally watch Valve's dog while their away."

This was almost poetic. I love it. I'm right there with you, they won me over. I know many felt about Steam in the beginning the way a lot of people feel about Origin now, but they've come around in a major way.

jdodson   Admin wrote on 01/11/2013 at 01:28am

I didn't do much with Steam earlier, not because I thought Valve was evil, but because buying the physical pressed game disc was often cheaper. Now thats really not the case and I jumped pretty far into Valve's ecosystem since.

Tungsten wrote on 01/11/2013 at 02:01am

I like the interview because it wasn't "Hey, look how great our new technology is! You are going to love it!" (I'm looking at you WiiU)

Instead it was: "We are going to give you what you want. If it sucks, we're not making it"

jdodson   Admin wrote on 01/11/2013 at 02:48am

They are a pretty cool company that way. Thinking of customers above anything else is a great way to approach stuff. One could say much about Valve but they really give a shit about doing the right thing by people.

Tungsten wrote on 01/11/2013 at 10:49pm

I got a lot of great feedback about Valve in my interview with Zach Barth... now if I can just get around to transcribing it.

Travis   Admin   Post Author wrote on 01/12/2013 at 01:26am

You interviewed Zach Barth? You gotta transcribe! That sounds interesting.

jdodson   Admin wrote on 01/12/2013 at 02:10am


beansmyname   Supporter wrote on 01/12/2013 at 04:40am

Is anyone else running the Steam beta in Linux yet? Steam is the only reason I still have Windows on my laptop and it's a touch disheartening to see some games performing better in Windows 8 than they do in Linux. However, Valve has helped advance the driver support for video cards by working directly with the vendors, so I am confident the kinks will get worked out by the time they release the actual Steambox.

Travis   Admin   Post Author wrote on 01/12/2013 at 04:50am

To Microsoft's credit, games perform better for me in Windows 8 than in Windows 7.

But you're right, games don't run as smoothly yet. I haven't tried TF2, and there aren't any other Valve games available yet, but from what they say Left 4 Dead 2 runs better in Linux than in Windows. There are a few things at play here. You have the Linux desktop model which is a bit flawed, drivers that aren't optimal, and developers who are less invested in getting the Linux version up to snuff. It's going to be a bit of a process but having been in the beta for a while I can tell things are getting better, slowly.

But bean, I have one suggestion for you, or rather, one set of suggestions. First, what video card and desktop environment are you using in Linux? There are a few optimizations that can make worlds of difference.

beansmyname   Supporter wrote on 01/12/2013 at 05:17am

E17 on ArchLinux, Intel HD 3000 (the bare minimum for the beta spec), Core i3, 4GB of RAM I know! It's hardly worth calling it a gaming rig. My desktop, which had MUCH better specs, died and I needed a replacement computer...not just for gaming.

L4D2 isn't yet available in the Linux beta. Sad, because that one runs real well on this hardware in Windows, which is one of the reasons I signed up for the beta. I had an empirical baseline for performance.

I haven't tried TF2 in a couple of weeks and I was running XFCE before switching to the lighter Enlightenment 17. In Windows, framerate is low, but playable. In Linux, not close.

Travis   Admin   Post Author wrote on 01/12/2013 at 06:29am

OK well, that negates my advice. Unless there's a way in E17 to turn off desktop compositing when full screen apps are in use. I can't remember if it uses compiz or something else for its compositing. And my other suggestion was a setting in nvidia-settings, so that's worthless as well. I tried! :)

jdodson   Admin wrote on 01/12/2013 at 05:19pm

I am running Steam on Linux and opened Tf2 and it seemed fine to me. I have a reasonably powerful Desktop with an Nvidia card. So far, I think the biggest detractor is the lack of available games but over the next bit that should change.

Since I do CG development on Linux I had to run Steam using Wine to chat with people while I was developing. So for my primary use on Linux, which is to talk to other people, it works great :D

SignalWarden wrote on 01/12/2013 at 07:59pm

I am running it on Linux just for chatting as well. I haven't even bothered with any games because I know it's not going to be ready for some time. I feel like it would be a waste of time to adopt it as a serious platform just yet. For me personally anyhow.

beansmyname   Supporter wrote on 01/13/2013 at 01:20am

E17 has an option to disable compositing on fullscreen windows. Already taken care of. :) I know that part of it is also my very low-end integrated graphics card. When L4D2 becomes available, I'll give that a shot. Until then, I'm hoping more of the Humble Bundle titles get added. Bastion and Binding of Isaac, to name a couple.

I have yet to actually try the voice chat in Steam but I'm glad to hear that works well!

jdodson   Admin wrote on 01/13/2013 at 07:22pm

Hoping for all the Bundle Linux ports to come to Steam for sure! L4D would be awesome and if companies like iD that have Linux ports would submit them would be awesome too. Lots of Linux ports just need to be added to Steam of existing titles.

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