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Dragon Age: Origins Third Time Charm?

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Some years ago, I received a recommendation to play the Dragon Age games. I ended up buying the Ultimate Edition for PS3. Want to know how much time I spent with it? I don’t know, but I’m sure it’s less than 10 hours, definitely less than 20. I’m not sure why I stopped playing it. Perhaps it was the battle system. I’m not used to characters acting on their own, thus removing the need for me to keep pressing buttons (or keys for the PC) to keep attacking. You can even pause the action and issue commands to each party member. This felt new and odd to me, but I am now a bit more comfortable with it.

Years later, Origin offered DAO for free (without any DLC). I was glad to... Read All Some years ago, I received a recommendation to play the Dragon Age games. I ended up buying the Ultimate Edition for PS3. Want to know how much time I spent with it? I don’t know, but I’m sure it’s less than 10 hours, definitely less than 20. I’m not sure why I stopped playing it. Perhaps it was the battle system. I’m not used to characters acting on their own, thus removing the need for me to keep pressing buttons (or keys for the PC) to keep attacking. You can even pause the action and issue commands to each party member. This felt new and odd to me, but I am now a bit more comfortable with it.

Years later, Origin offered DAO for free (without any DLC). I was glad to have the game on PC (having a kick ass PC has made me an almost exclusive PC gamer). Again, want to know how much time I spent with it? I could possibly find out by opening up Origin now, but that won’t be necessary. I’m sure I’ve spent less than 20 hours. This comes as a surprise to me presently, because it felt like I had spent more time with it.

In recent years, a friend has often raved about DA and strongly recommends the series. I did download a demo for Dragon Age Inquisition, which allows only 6 hours of game play. I tried it out, but I was still uncomfortable with the battle system, so I hardly played it. However, I recently decided to buy the DA series. I got DAO’s Ultimate Edition on Steam and I believe I have DA2 and DAI on Origin.

Steam says I’ve spent 21 hours playing this time, but I know that doesn’t actually reflect my current saved game. I made it to the tower in Ostagar and decided to lower the difficulty from normal to easy. Now it’s a much more enjoyable game. The funny thing is that in this third time of starting out the game, I am now further into it than I’ve ever gotten. I still feel close to the beginning. I may be ¼ of the way through it, I’m not sure, because I don’t know how many hours this game has. I imagine it’s a lot, but the map looks small, so I’m not sure.

In my three attempts (one currently successful) to start the game, I have always chosen to be a noble male warrior. I’m not sure what weapons I used in the previous two attempts, whether they were one- or two-handed swords, but now I’m using one-handed swords with a shield. Once again, I did rescue Sten. I have him using two-handed swords and right now he has the beautiful Butterfly Sword which came as a free gift due to one of the game’s DLC. I love it!

I never reached specialization in any of my other attempts to play this, but my main character now has the Berserker specialization. I chose this because of the health bonus. I had Morrigan in my party until I did the quest for the Circle of Magi and met Wynne, who is now the mage in my party because she’s a healing mage. I also have Zevran in my party, because I need a rogue to help me open locked chests. Unfortunately, he still has “insufficient skill” to open almost everything I try to open, so I need him to level up. What I love about him is that he sounds like an Elder Scrolls Khajiit.

The game is about 8 years old now and I feel like it’s aged well, in other words it still looks decent. I’m not saying that the game’s graphics are exceptional, but to me it doesn’t look bad. I find some games are difficult to play after they’ve aged a while as the graphical quality is often hard to “get over.” The modern games I play put my GPU to work, I can definitely tell by how much noise is coming out of my fans, since I have them set to “auto.” However, I also have manual settings that I switch to when playing games like Ark: Survival Evolved and No Man’s Sky.

Anyway, if anyone wants to jump in here and discuss the game, your comments are welcome. I may update this post (via comments) as I progress and think of more things to discuss about it. My future DA path looks like this; finish DAO, then check out DAO’s Awakening and other DLC, then play DA2, and then play DAI.

Feel free to let me know what you think of this game and the others in the series. I may create other DA posts as I progress to each different game.

Travis Admin wrote on 03/23/2017 at 01:01pm

Your attempts to start this sound like my attempts to start Mass Effect. It took me three times to get past 6 or 7 hours. I'm thrilled I finally did, but that first game was a slow burn. I gather Dragon Age is as well from other people's comments. I have played about an hour of it so far and it looks really interesting.

Azurephile Super Member Post Author wrote on 03/23/2017 at 06:12pm

Interesting. I can't really think of many other games I've started this many times and failed to make significant progress. On the contrary, I've played Skyrim 3 times, but I believe I completed it each time. I seem to recall Jon saying his experience w/ DA's battle system was similar to mine.

Travis Admin wrote on 03/23/2017 at 07:35pm

It's very strange/unique. It's not even turn based, it's weird. But it works! I haven't put much time in at all, I just needed something to take my mind off waiting for Andromeda so I fired it up. I plan on diving into that series next.

Azurephile Super Member Post Author wrote on 03/23/2017 at 09:15pm

Cool! Maybe you'll post something and I can join your conversation. I might do the opposite, play ME after DA. I'm not really sure what I'll play when I finish this series. I do want to hop back into Ark to check out the latest patch, but I don't want to do that while playing one of these DA games, because I'm afraid I'll forget what's going on and feel like I have to start over again. Ark can wait, for now.

DAO just crashed on me. It's done that at least once before. That reminds me that this is one of those games where saving often is definitely something you want to do. I just lost some progress again. Ah well.

jdodson Admin wrote on 03/24/2017 at 04:50am

DAO was recommended to me years ago and I started playing and walked away about when you did. I absolutely __LOVED__ Neverwinter Nights which this is a spiritual successor to. Again, very similar to NwN which I loved but somehow, Dragon Age Origins didn't hit me quite right. I think it was the combat too and at some point the difficulty spiked and it was already feeling like work so I stepped away.

It's one of those games I bet if I came back to i'd enjoy in bursts but I think it might also be a game for another kind of gamer or another version of myself. Back when Neverwinter Nights came out that was the only new game I had that could run on my college laptop. I had played WarCraft III so much I wore out the CD's(not really but I played it a crazy amount) and I was looking for something else. Neverwinter Nights offered a metric junkload of gameplay and I really enjoyed it and bought the two expansions that came out for it.

Azurephile Super Member Post Author wrote on 03/24/2017 at 05:20am

I've never played NwN, but DAO reminds me of Lord of the Rings and The Elder Scrolls. Since you mentioned it, I haven't played WarCraft III either (although I do have a demo of it on my PC).

Did you ever lower the difficulty when you played? I feel no shame that I'm playing it on "easy" now, it (to me) certainly makes the game much more enjoyable. That doesn't mean I don't get my ass kicked, but it's usually not so bad or often.

The game offers a variety of choices. For example, in the quest I'm working on now with the dwarves, the king is dead (trust me, not a major spoiler), and I can choose which of the two sides to support. There are other choices to me made as well. I can recall at least one bad ass kicking you can avoid, by saying the right thing. At another point, there's a dragon, which you clearly see, but it won't attack you unless you blow a certain horn (or hit the gong for the console version).

There are also plenty of gifts you can give to your party members, which raises or lowers their disposition to you (how much they like you). I haven't run into it yet, but it seems "romancing" certain characters is a very popular thing among DA fans. You can do this via gift giving. If you do decide to "romance" a character, you're not limited to herterosexuality.

One of my biggest annoyances so far is trying to righ-click on (to open) something on the ground (like a chest) and instead right-clicking on a character, which initiates a conversation. So, sometimes while my characters are following me, they get in the way. Your party members don't have to follow you every where as you can have them stay put or "move freely."

Travis Admin wrote on 03/24/2017 at 02:21pm

> I feel no shame that I'm playing it on "easy" now, it (to me) certainly makes the game much more enjoyable.

I play a lot of games on easy these days. I had more patience for it back in the day but I just don't have time to master a game the way I used to. If I'm getting home from work, then relaxing a bit before/after dinner, then getting maybe 2 hours of gaming in, I don't want to spend half that time repeating stuff because I died.

Azurephile Super Member Post Author wrote on 03/27/2017 at 12:33am

Wow, Steam says 40 hours. Even on easy the last part was extremely difficult. Luckily you can use your army allies and call them into battle. In the final battle I used golems and when they died I called in the dwarves. Now I have Awakening and the DLC to do.

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If you haven't picked up Dragon Age: Origins yet, this is your chance to get it right now from EA for free on Origin. Dragon Age: Origin was BioWare's spiritual successor to Neverwinter Nights and features some really excellent storytelling.

If you are looking for an epic RPG that will keep you entertained for hours, you should get this.

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Azurephile Super Member wrote on 10/09/2014 at 03:05am

Thanks! I have the Ultimate Edition for the PS3, but didn't get very far with it. It seems Bejeweled 3 is also free. =)

Azurephile Super Member wrote on 10/09/2014 at 03:09am

This is kind of exciting. I was thinking of trying out the PC version of the game, now that my PC is awesome. I'm also addicted to Bejeweled!!!

jdodson Admin Post Author wrote on 10/10/2014 at 11:21pm

I need to try out Bejeweled 3. I've played the first, but I wonder what the third game adds to the formula?

Azurephile Super Member wrote on 10/11/2014 at 02:03am

The third adds quite a few new game modes. It's *REALLY* awesome!!!! You should get it!!! Let me know how to connect to you on Origin, so I can add you to my friend's list. Thanks for sharing the news about the free games. I wish they would send out an email when they do this.

Azurephile Super Member wrote on 10/11/2014 at 10:11pm

Ha! I have collected all the badges in Bejeweled 3. That game is fun! Anyway, Jon, there are 4 main game modes, each has it's own "secret" mode, too, so in total there are 8 game modes. Zen mode is the endless one, it was created to help players relax with music and such. It's secret mode is Butterflies, where you have to clear butterfly gems before they reach the top and get caught by the spider. There's also a Poker game mode, mining, freeze, sand, and classic. Hm, I seem to be forgetting one. Anyway, it's a great game, I'm glad I got it for free!

Azurephile Super Member wrote on 10/11/2014 at 10:12pm

Ah, the one I forget is Quest mode, where you have to complete certain challenges that use all modes.

Azurephile Super Member wrote on 10/12/2014 at 03:00am

Oh, well apparently I only completed the first set of badges. Once you do them, you have more challenges to do to get higher level badges. I guess that's good because I'm not tired of the game yet. =)

Azurephile Super Member wrote on 10/16/2014 at 11:03pm

Ugh, I've been playing Lightning Mode lately because of the of the higher level badges requires you to get 750,000 points in that mode. It's tough! Some how I managed to get about 110,000 less than I need.

Azurephile Super Member wrote on 10/17/2014 at 11:08pm

Yes! I did it! I got over 750,000 points in a Lightning game! I got the Blazing Speed bonus three times in that round. Phew! There are still more badges for me to work on.

As for Dragon Age: Origins, I played it for a few minutes. I'll get back to it eventually. I'm currently working on Bejeweled 3 and Super Smash Bros. (3DS) challenges. It will be interesting to play Dragon Age: Origins some more. Maybe after I finish it on the PC, I'll do the same on the PS3 since I have the Ultimate Edition for it.

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Story Time with Cap'n Curry: Dragon Age: Origins

My wife and I have very different approaches to gaming in general. I favor tactics, strategy, and cunning: if I can defeat you before you know you've lost, that's a good victory; if I can defeat you before you know we're fighting that's a great one. One of my proudest adventures in Skyrim was clearing a cave full of bandits: not because I fought hard or against valiant foes, but because you could raise every bandit from the dead and there would still be no witnesses to the deed.

Beth, on the other hand, favors raw power and force. If there is nothing left of her opponent, that's a good victory; if there's nothing left of the battlefield that's a great one. She punishes... Read All My wife and I have very different approaches to gaming in general. I favor tactics, strategy, and cunning: if I can defeat you before you know you've lost, that's a good victory; if I can defeat you before you know we're fighting that's a great one. One of my proudest adventures in Skyrim was clearing a cave full of bandits: not because I fought hard or against valiant foes, but because you could raise every bandit from the dead and there would still be no witnesses to the deed.

Beth, on the other hand, favors raw power and force. If there is nothing left of her opponent, that's a good victory; if there's nothing left of the battlefield that's a great one. She punishes you for daring to face her in the most extreme manner possible; she never maims when she can kill and she never kills when she can obliterate.

I had played through Dragon Age Origins with my usual assassin-type build, and enjoyed it thoroughly, but was wondering how the game experience is different between classes. Beth came to a plot quest that I had been curious about since my own play-through, because I talked my way past it and I wondered what I had skipped.

Beth, upon meeting the fellow with whom I had dealt in treachery and deceit, immediately pissed him off then caved his head in to illustrate her point. When she was finished playing whack-a-mole with his minions, she went to the valley beyond, where a big dragon flew overhead, perched on a cliff, and roared like hell.

I hadn't anticipated a dragon actually showing up, and was super curious to see how the game would handle this - was this meant to be a fight, or was talking my way out of it just one of several ways to walk past this thing? I started looking for options, a way out, but Beth had already charted her course.

You see, she had found a gong.

She rang the dragon's goddamn dinner bell, pulled out her sledgehammer, and yelled "GET YOUR ASS DOWN OFF THAT CLIFF AND BRING IT, BITCH."

She lost that fight. And the next one. And the one after that. Realizing that Operation Dinnertime was probably the only tactic I'd get to see here, and since it seemed unlikely that the dragon would choke on the dwarf trying to swallow it whole, I went to my office to futz around. About an hour later, Beth came bopping in and proudly announced that she'd beaten the dragon. "Oh, wow!" I said. "How did you do it?"

She looked at me like I was nuts, and said "I hit it with my hammer until it died."

Continuing the Age: On Dialog & The Story

I marked this post with spoilers because I want to talk a bit about the plot. For yall that have played before, chime in with if the game was different for you in some way.

I am continuing my current game as an Elf Mage.

After the Mage Origin story I was tossed into the King's warcamp as they were assembling against the Blight. Basically some people in my world were corrupted somehow and became "The Blight". The good guys have to rise up every so often and beat back The Blight and now seems to be the time yet again. The Blight minions kind of look like Orcs from Lord of the Rings so nothing really scary or new in the way of the game antagonists.

One thing I have noticed... Read All I marked this post with spoilers because I want to talk a bit about the plot. For yall that have played before, chime in with if the game was different for you in some way.

I am continuing my current game as an Elf Mage.

After the Mage Origin story I was tossed into the King's warcamp as they were assembling against the Blight. Basically some people in my world were corrupted somehow and became "The Blight". The good guys have to rise up every so often and beat back The Blight and now seems to be the time yet again. The Blight minions kind of look like Orcs from Lord of the Rings so nothing really scary or new in the way of the game antagonists.

One thing I have noticed about DAO is that they seem to be kill off characters quickly. Already I have met a few interesting characters and the murdered them before my eyes. After a huge battle where the King and his Army were double crossed all that was left in my party was myself and a Grey Warden fighter. I blacked out after the battle and awoke in an old Witches house I had met earlier in the game.

I kind of liked that they sort of "reset the game" at the Witches house because it stripped the game away of an uninteresting King and the notion of fighting for some kind of country I had no association with. I also like that the odds are stacked entirely against us. Right now I am a rather low level Mage in a world crawling with a ton of Blight minions. So it was a good way to sort of clear away the cruft that RPG games seem to accumulate in terms of really generic and uninteresting plots. Clear it away in that now all those uninteresting characters and tropes are now dead. Fun.

I really like the in game dialog. At first I was annoyted because the game the seemed so chatty. Annoyed until I sort of broke through to an understanding about it. I can shape my characters relationship with others through my choices. At least it seems like I can. If I am pity, the other characters react to that. If I am too nice sometimes they question that. If I am a jerk they call me out on that. Its interesting to play a game where those kinds of things actually matter.

Blood Mages and Dialog Trees

I have wanted to play Dragon Age: Origins since it was released in 2009 but I haven't picked it up till recently. I only recently got a good gaming PC so when the game dropped in 2009 I would have picked it up on PS3. I heard the console versions of Dragon Age: Origins were not awesome and the PC port was much better so I waited to pick it up. During the last Steam sale I noticed it was $8.99 so I picked it up and all the DLC it was launched with.

Dragon Age: Origins is a more unique RPG in that each Class and Race has a unique starting Origin. I created an Elf Mage and my starting Origin story brought me to the Mages circle.

Visually the game reminds me of Neverwinter... Read All I have wanted to play Dragon Age: Origins since it was released in 2009 but I haven't picked it up till recently. I only recently got a good gaming PC so when the game dropped in 2009 I would have picked it up on PS3. I heard the console versions of Dragon Age: Origins were not awesome and the PC port was much better so I waited to pick it up. During the last Steam sale I noticed it was $8.99 so I picked it up and all the DLC it was launched with.

Dragon Age: Origins is a more unique RPG in that each Class and Race has a unique starting Origin. I created an Elf Mage and my starting Origin story brought me to the Mages circle.

Visually the game reminds me of Neverwinter Nights and has a similar feel and tone to it. Having full voice acting for all the characters and dialog trees is nice as Neverwinter only had voice acting for part of the game. The graphics are very good and the UI is pretty easy to navigate as well. One thing I noticed right away about DAO is that there is much more dialog present than is typical in games I play. The game also presents you with many choices as well. Its not entirely clear what all the choices allow you or change in the game, but its nice to be able to control if your character is an asshole or not.

A few times I was presented with choices(I won't get into spoiler territory) I wasn't comfortable with any of the options. I picked the option that seemed best and didn't love the direction I had to go. It was odd as typically in games they present you with the OBVIOUS evil choice and OBVIOUS good choice but in DAO sometimes you just have choices. The choice I ended up making was seemed like a good one, but, again I wasn't entirely comfortable with it.

The game offers some interesting play style in that you can pause the game to scan the battle-scape and setup your characters next moves. I ran into the fight with the first mini boss without using the pause method and was handily defeated. During my second take I paused it right away and was a bit more strategic and was able to take down the boss easily.

So far I have really enjoyed Dragon Age: Origins and if you are looking for a good RPG that isn't too expensive, I recommend you check it out.

Gary_Butterfield wrote on 12/20/2012 at 06:16pm

I'll be interested to hear if it holds up for you because it didn't for me. The combat is too MMO-y in all respects. Both in managing power recharges and agro. There are also some BLAND quests and dungeons later. This game disappointed me more than any game I can think of in the last ten years.

jdodson Admin Post Author wrote on 12/20/2012 at 06:17pm

Wow. OK so I will be writing as I continue through the whole game. I finally found a game that made sense to do that with and this be IT!

So far, so good, but I am open to having it crush my spirits.

Gary_Butterfield wrote on 12/20/2012 at 06:44pm

It might just work for you. It's a popular game and I'm decidedly pretty old school with my western RPGs. But I was promised a spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate and this is not it.

jdodson Admin Post Author wrote on 12/20/2012 at 07:35pm

Thats what they claimed, they also said the spiritual successor to Neverwinter and so far it seems pretty apt.

Timogorgon Member wrote on 12/21/2012 at 07:18pm

I've been wanting to pick this up on PS3 for awhile now.

Gary: Have you played FFXII or either of the KotOR games, and if so what were your thoughts on the combat systems? Those games had combat systems that felt very MMOish to me. Is this games combat similar?

jdodson Admin Post Author wrote on 12/21/2012 at 08:36pm

Seems it was reviewed pretty well on consoles, I heard its save/load cycle sucked, but thats pretty console standard. Oh and its NOT a game for kids. Really dark, really bloody.

Tungsten wrote on 12/22/2012 at 02:18pm

I liked it, but I ran into the same issue I have with most RPS's: I start over like 15 times and never get more than half-way through. I just keep thinking: I should have made the other choice.

jdodson Admin Post Author wrote on 12/22/2012 at 02:42pm

@Tungsten I hear that. Especially in Dragon Age where sometimes when I am chatting with someone that could mean they die in some way. I came to that point recently and wondered if my better dialog choices could have saved someone.

After the fact, I either check the wiki or I sort of mentally tick that off for a future play through. But, yeah I wish I had it all layed out for me sometimes. But one could ask where the fun is in that I imagine :)

But this does sort of highlight the replay ability of DAO.

Tungsten wrote on 12/22/2012 at 02:46pm

While i'ts not quite the same thing, I kind of like the Rogue Likes where everyone dies. Ya, you made the wrong choice and suffered the consequences, but... eh... that's the point. In games like DAO, it makes me feel like I made some mistake, and I constantly feel like I should re-start and fix it.

Games like that I have to play with a walk-through so that I can make sure I make zero mistakes. After a while, it just starts begin no-fun.

It's not just dying either: situations where there are items that you can't get later in the game give me just as much anxiety. I've sat there with checklists, running through each tiny pickup before moving on to the next area.

jdodson Admin Post Author wrote on 12/22/2012 at 02:57pm

I agree, but I remember in one case my wife was watching me play and told me at one point "you shouldn't do that" and I ended up doing it and it turned out ok. Afterward I checked the wiki to see how it could have gone and I think I picked well, she said she would have chosen otherwise. I sort of try not to do that a lot and just go with it, but occasionally I just have to look afterward. And it's always and afterward thing, this isn't Monkey Island :)

The last game I think I went through with a guide handy was Ocarina. I think Super Metroid before that...

Gary_Butterfield wrote on 12/23/2012 at 05:01am

@Whiteboy, I'm not really into either of those games, but for different reasons. FF12 has this license board issue that i plan on writing about on here soon where it makes all of your characters the same. KOTOR I just couldn't get into because I'm not really into Star Wars (yup). The combat wasn't particularly what I didn't like about those titles.

With DA:O, I was looking forward to it SO hard and the combat in Baldur's Gate is SO good. I think that was more the issue.

Timogorgon Member wrote on 12/24/2012 at 07:52pm

Yeah the license board in FF12 was kind of a bummer. I started out specializing my characters, but by the time I got to the later parts of the game everyone had basically learned everything else. I look forward to your post about the game. :)

jdodson Admin Post Author wrote on 12/24/2012 at 10:15pm

License board? Is that like some kind of quest hub?

Gary_Butterfield wrote on 12/25/2012 at 05:55am

It's the level up system. The problem was that abilities were locked by two factors: if you had the license for them (read: you unlocked them in your skill tree) AND if you bought them. Since there's an escalating progression of gear/spells/abilities as you go from city to city, you're encouraged to spend points on what's available. If you insist on specializing your characters, you're going to have tons of XP just sitting around, doing nothing until you get to the town where you can "buy" the ability you want. They should have picked one or the other. It was frustrating as hell.

Tungsten wrote on 12/25/2012 at 03:37pm

I liked the license board. I thought it had a good mix of customization and natural aptitude. Depending on where the character started, there was an obvious progression, but if you were willing to put in the work, you could make anyone do anything you wanted.

Gary_Butterfield wrote on 12/28/2012 at 10:35pm

But you were limited by what was available. So, if I want to make a white mage, I can buy cure in the first town. Between town 1 and town 2, I have tons of unused license points (or whatever they called them) so it incentivizes teaching the white mage fire because I have all these points and it's the only game in town. Same with equipment and other class abilities. Same thing with my black mage. It's not like you need to save those points. They give you plenty to work with.

Now, imagine it worked more like FF10. You didn't buy magic, you just unlocked it. So if you had a bunch of leftover points, you could throw someone down the white mage path and actually advance.

OR it could be like FF1 and you just have new equipment available when you enter a town. You just buy spells and your progression is limited by your progress in the game. I suppose you can just pretend it works like that in FF12 but it's inelegant that way. I played through 2/3 of that game and by the time I quit, each character knew each magic spell and ability available by that point because there was no reason not to.

jdodson Admin Post Author wrote on 01/13/2013 at 07:53pm

Just wondering, @Gary_Butterfield did you beat DAO? @Tungsten?

Gary_Butterfield wrote on 01/13/2013 at 08:42pm

I got through the magic tower, the wood elves thing and one other one, I think. All of them except the Dwarf one, which was where I gave up.

Gary_Butterfield wrote on 01/13/2013 at 08:44pm

Oh, the DLC with the golem, is the other thing I did. I like the golem, for the record. I like all the characters in DA:O.

Gary_Butterfield wrote on 01/13/2013 at 08:45pm

That was weird. That was meant to be another post. I did the mage tower, the wood elves, one other thing and got stuck half way through the dwarves, in addition to the above.

jdodson Admin Post Author wrote on 01/14/2013 at 12:05am

That makes sense, thanks Gary.

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