General Discussion

Yeah that’s Katie’s new car. I’m driving it because she has some time off and has my Nissan in the shop for an oil change and inspection. I adore her car though.

And no I didn’t get a second controller Will, but I have an SNES classic and those controllers work, plus and 8bitdo and the adapter so I’m set on controllers.

Yep and those cable extenders are cheap. Very worth it. They’re sitting next to my original NES extension cables in my game junk cabinet.

It's likely to work Greg-- https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/17341/~/which-controllers-are-compatible-with-the-nes-classic-edition%3F

They don't list nearly all the third-party controllers that will.

I don't think IM3 is terrible by a long shot. I think at worst the MCU films have been ok and mostly fun if forgettable. I put IM3, Thor 2, and Hulk in that category.

I don’t even remember Pepper being a badass fireflower superhero. Kinda similar to our Thor 2 discussion, I literally remember no plot from that one.

I remember like 50 iron man suits maybe preventing some destruction? That’s all I got.

FWIW I remember thinking it was better than Iron Man 2, but the second one stuck with me pretty well with the same number of viewings.

Thanks Greg. So you'd prefer to pay yearly then?

> There have been other things I wanted to do on Patreon, but they get expensive. I felt overwhelmed w/ how many companies want your monthly dollars.

Totally, I think you should make sure you have that balance right. Now that it's easy to self fund, lots of companies do it so you have to select the most important stuff.

> Yearly was cheaper ($50/year vs $60), but it's ok.

It was and I think I might bring that back. Patreon is the more popular support option right now so we decided to move to that for our first phase. The reason why we're not using the old system is because the amount of work it took to support Amazon Payments with all the changes they made over time just didn't seem worth it to me. So for people that like the monthly support option, Patreon is a great choice and i'm thinking about how to do a yearly Membership for people that want that. Since it would be all at once it should be cheaper too.

I'd also like to get a one time donation option too so people can just choose to give us $5 if they want.

Again, all stuff we had before Amazon changed it's whole payments system.

We're still trying to get everything right so drop any other comments you had our way!

> Shut up and take my money!

SUCCESS!

> Looks like a couple of peeps in this post need to join up (Jon & Travis)!

Heh. I pay the site hosting + everything else and Travis covers the Podcast hosting bill. The Patreon is trying to defray that a bit, so if I funded it i'd basically just be redirecting my money back to CG with some fees deducted.

As I said earlier, I didn't expect to get a flood of people but it's setting the ground work for funding so I can focus on the next set of things we are doing. Which is pretty cool and a bit secret... for now

Mmmmmm. No but it's sort of in that spirit.

Sort of.

It has met its funding goal. Since it has already met its funding goal, they are already starting the next phase of production.

Yeah, good on Valve!

And like last time, I apologize for my sick-sounding self. We recorded this one before the Solo review and you can kinda hear my voice breaking down in real time, so that's exciting.

I’ll buy your NES Classic ;)

Worth a shot!

Yeah, that's something they've mentioned they have yet to fully address. THAT SAID, I wonder what the real criticism is because if I was in the market to buy a ton of PC games i'd say Steam does a good job finding what i'd like. Are people not seeing the latest and greatest Triple A game and only seeing two hour game jam games?

Honestly my problem isn't that I don't know about great games I just don't have time to play them all.

Good to know.

I don’t have a Samsung Smart Fridge unfortunately.

Todd said you could play solo but I play MMOs mostly solo. That doesn’t necessarily mean you can play single-player. We still need some more details about the specifics there.

Oh wow. I assumed that was pure joke.

https://youtu.be/PdYtulRRfDU

Interview with Todd Howard linked above. He clarified a lot about Fallout 76.

There is no offline mode. Playing solo does NOT mean you will be playing alone. They're working on ways to opt out of PvP and balancing the rewards for people who aren't interested in that kind of gameplay.

VATS is going to be present but it won't slow time like it has.

There are no NPCs aside from robots. Presumably other than the Overseer but that may just be a voice on the intercom in the vault and nothing else. There's still a world to discover via terminals and things like that, but there are no NPCs. That seems weird but they could make that work.

Mods will come, but not at launch. Private worlds will come, so you can mod up your server the way you want, but not at launch.

I dunno about great news but hopeful for sure. If they can keep griefing from being a problem then most of my worries are gone.

"Listening" I'm not sure about since they just announced it and haven't exactly had time to react to anything people have said. But it definitely shows they knew what people would be concerned about and are working on those things.

I don't know what you mean about it not being a game for me. I went into their conference knowing that it would almost definitely be online only and was still interested. I've already said that even with my questions about it I'm very interested. I don't need private servers. I play MMOs some. For me it's just about being able to have fun playing a game without a troop of assholes wrecking my fun, and that's where the questions still lie, as for what kinds of things are planned to prevent that. He did specifically say that griefing is something they're spending a lot of time working out, thus it's hopeful news.

Ohhhh "By yourself"

I get it. lol

That doesn’t mean a release in August, that’s just when they’ll be giving it a proper showing.

While it wouldn’t be unheard of for Bethesda to drop one of their “and its available... right now!”, they would want to show it off and then leave time for pre-orders for such a huge game.

There was a behind the scenes mini-doc and interview that gave us some new info about Fallout 76.

This is a reddit post that breaks down the new info and links to the video if you want to watch the full video


https://reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/8qsx8s/complete_notes_from_the_noclip_documentary/

This mostly hit all the notes I wanted it to. You can’t just get repeatedly killed by the same person. That kind of targeted griefing isn’t possible. But you can still get randomly killed because they want that kind of danger. You don’t lose anything, you just respawn, and people who do this get bounties so if you grief you have a target on your back.

Also nukes can be used on players but considering how hard they are to get, it would be wasteful to do so. The player you nuked respawns and you lose the potential loot you would have gotten from nuking a better spot.

It does really seem like they’ve balanced things pretty well.

Saying that I'm more interested in a Rage sequel than a Fallout game feels weird, but Rage 2 is high up on my most anticipated list. Right below Spiderman.

It’s worth noting that there’s no Steam page for Fallout 76 or Rage 2. And based on this FAQ it looks like the Bethesda launcher may be the only way to get them.

https://fallout.bethesda.net/faq

They would sell a lot more copies for sure but those micro-transactions for cosmetics would get the Steam tax. They might figure they can get more money on their own turf. What may happen is an initial launch on their own launcher and then a month or so later launch it on Steam. This is just spitballing on my part.

The only place to play Fortnite is via Epic’s launcher and they seem to be doing pretty well.

It’s also worth noting that this may just be for the beta and the final release may go on Steam. It’s hard to tell. But the only way to get into the beta is to preorder, and the only way to preorder seems to be their launcher.

I would agree except that there's just no Steam page for pre-ordering, and right after E3 is when people are excited about that and their previous games that were announced with a release date later in the year have all gone up there immediately. I'm like 50/50 on it.

Two-months-later necro bump

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/software/fallout_76_won_t_be_released_on_steam_-_pc_version_will_be_exclusive_to_bethesda_net/1

No Steam version of Fallout 76.

Honestly the POTENTIALLY worse news here is that they're shooting to have beta progress transfer over to the full game.

Which means people who preorder have a clear advantage in this.

I say "potentially" though, because it depends a lot on how they deal with balance.

It may be eventually but the beta requires a preorder so it won’t be for launch or a lot of people who are out $60 would be very upset.

It seems like at a certain point publishers can save money running their own servers and skipping the 30% Steam tax. I imagine if it goes well for them, this may be the way forward for Bethesda.