At this years Disney D23 Expo Star Wars fans were treated to a special D23 panel on Rise of Skywalker along with a new trailer that just dropped. The trailer features a look back at all the Skywalker saga Star Wars films and some all new Rise of Skywalker footage. I urge you to watch it now because in the paragraph i'll be talking trailer spoilers.

Looks like Rey is featured heavily in this trailer and she looks to be a lightsaber wielding badass. Also. The Emperor has some new voice work and what sounds like a taste of Darth Vaders iconic breathing sound. The end of the trailer has had fans guessing what it means as Rey snaps a double-bladed red lightsaber out and looks very ... pro dark side. It's possible this is a vision caused by the Emperor of her dark side ability like we saw in Empire with Luke and the force cave. Or... it's something else entirely.

Rey will get into her dark side attire in Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker which comes out on December 20th.

Travis   Admin wrote on 08/26/2019 at 02:49pm

Thereā€™s simultaneously a lot to unpack and not much at the same time.

Is that the first time weā€™ve ever seen saber throw and return in live action?

That city theyā€™re looking out over looks amazing and I canā€™t wait to see more of it.

So the red dual saber is absolutely incredible looking. But to finish the series with dark Rey doesnā€™t make a lot of sense, and they donā€™t have a lot of time to turn her and turn her back. So Iā€™m betting this is some dark side force trick or a vision (like you mention) or her long lost twin, or clone, or something. That saber seems way too badass to just be used in a vision though.

Azurephile   Super Member wrote on 08/26/2019 at 06:34pm

Holy shit!

Travis   Admin wrote on 08/26/2019 at 08:04pm

Thatā€™s really all that needs to be said, right?

Azurephile   Super Member wrote on 08/26/2019 at 09:40pm

Yeah! I saw something about "Dark Rey," but didn't see the video until this post. Of course this video just makes us (or at least me) ask more questions, like WTF is up w/ Rey and the dual red light saber, that's a rare weapon in Star Wars and I've never seen one open up like hers did. Red is also primarily the color that the Sith use, because they use fabricated crystals and they make them "bleed." So, does Rey turn to the Dark Side? Does Darth Sidious inhabit Rey in order to come back? And then there's still unanswered questions, like who are Rey's parents? Is she a clone? I saw some where that someone (I think the actress who plays Rey) said that the answer to who her parents are is obvious, but I still feel clueless about that. It was said they were nobodies, but were they really? We do see Rey and Kylo Ren dueling and she has a non-red light saber. So WTF is going on? I guess we'll just have to wait until December to find out.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 08/27/2019 at 01:47am

I really like the idea of Rey with a lightsaber staff (a lightstaff?), since she used a staff back when she was a scavenger. But, I really don't see her going to the dark side completely. She might start turning (under force ghost Darth Sidius's influence), but eventually she'll be swayed back to either the light side, or some sort of grey-middle ground. Likely Kylo Ren will see the error in his ways and be the force that brings her back from the dark side.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 08/27/2019 at 01:47am

No matter what, this is an opening day movie for me!

Azurephile   Super Member wrote on 08/27/2019 at 02:52am

Adam brings up a good point about the grey-middle ground. I've watched a lot of Star Wars videos on YouTube and supposedly we might see more of that grey area. There are grey Jedi, I believe.

I don't think Rey would go completely to the Dark Side on her own, although Sidius might make her go that way. It's possible she's a clone he created to help give him eternal life. I think I saw at least one theory on that and how Sidius will or could return.

I also forgot about C3PO! Why are his eyes red? Did he join the Dark Side? I did see a video about how he may have been Darth Vader's spy the whole time, even though he probably didn't know it. Also, how come he had a red arm and now he doesn't? I wonder what the story is with that.

Interesting stuff!

Azurephile   Super Member wrote on 08/27/2019 at 03:27am

Listen to this song! It's all about the "dark side of Rey!!!!!" HAHAHAHA https://youtu.be/PYtAU06rvBU

Will_Ball   Game Mod   Super Member wrote on 08/27/2019 at 04:25am

I think we will find out that Rey is a Vulcan from the planet Ork

Travis   Admin wrote on 08/27/2019 at 02:05pm

There are no gray Jedi in canon. There were some in legends, but the current story group seems to dislike that idea.

I think Willā€™s idea is perfect. Nanu Nanu and Prosper!

Travis   Admin wrote on 08/27/2019 at 02:07pm

Also you can find out about C3POā€™s red arm in a comic about him, and he got his gold arm back by the end of The Force Awakens. Presumably he was just waiting for a replacement protocol droid arm.

Will_Ball   Game Mod   Super Member wrote on 08/28/2019 at 06:12am

What is that isnā€™t C3PO, but rather Triple Zero?

Travis   Admin wrote on 08/28/2019 at 03:56pm

Wrong body color but Iā€™ve seen some theories that itā€™s triple zeroā€™s ā€œbrainā€ inside C3PO. Which, if we get Triple Zero dialogue delivered by Anthony Daniels, the rest movie could literally be all the characters kicking rocks and it would be a net positive.

jdodson   Admin   Post Author wrote on 08/28/2019 at 06:59pm

Most likely a pissed off C3P0. THIS TIME HE'S GONE ROGUE-ONE... or ANGRY!

For the anyone who didn't know who triple zero was (me).
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/0-0-0

Azurephile   Super Member wrote on 08/28/2019 at 09:19pm

Wow I didn't know who Triple Zero was, thanks for the link Jon! I'd have to watch the video again, but the eyes make me think that that is Triple Zero. Yeah, he had a different body color than C3PO, he was dark silver, but it says, "Aphra, BT-1 and 0-0-0 moved to Vrogas Vas, where Vader and Skywalker had both crashed their ships after a dogfight. While Vader faced an army of Rebels alone, Aphra attempted to capture Skywalker. In order to do this, she painted 0-0-0 with a golden luster to make him look like Luke's protocol droid, C-3PO." So, could it be Triple Zero or did C-3PO get new eyes?

Will_Ball   Game Mod   Super Member wrote on 08/28/2019 at 10:54pm

The ending will be Rey as Sith and C3PO as Triple Zero.

Azurephile   Super Member wrote on 08/29/2019 at 12:09am

Here's a good break down from a channel I recently found (and watched break downs of other movies): https://youtu.be/Iv-5_cy0ctg

Still, "The Rise of Skywalker," who is that Skywalker? Or are they using it as a general term? I saw some where that Skywalker was a common name in the Star Wars universe like Smith is in ours.

December is looking good so far! :)

Travis   Admin wrote on 08/29/2019 at 03:56pm

The new canon is pretty clear that Skywalker is a unique name, the old canon couldnā€™t keep it straight. But itā€™s something people have pondered over the years because itā€™s kinda dumb to give Luke that name.
https://www.quora.com/Was-Skywalker-a-common-surname-in-the-Star-Wars-universe-If-not-then-why-didn%E2%80%99t-they-give-Luke-a-different-last-name-to-help-hide-his-true-identity

Triple Zero was painted at one point but didnā€™t remain so. It could be anything but one thing people (me) who want all these expanded characters to show up donā€™t take into account is the time to explain things. I desperately want Ahsoka to show in a movie for instance, but how do you introduce a character like that to the live action movies without breaking the narrative flow for a bit of a long explanation of who she is? Trip kinda falls into that a bit too. Still more possible than a huge character like Ahsoka but this is a character that is important to comic fans and nobody else, and explaining his relation to the whole narrative would take some time.

I still want it though. šŸ˜‚

Azurephile   Super Member wrote on 08/29/2019 at 05:46pm

I'd like to see her, too. I saw her in The Clone Wars.

Travis   Admin wrote on 08/29/2019 at 06:55pm

Yeah, sheā€™s literally my favorite Star Wars character. More than Luke, Han, Rey, Anakin. It feels weird saying that as a 37 year old but her character development went to some crazy places and we were along for the ride and man... I felt that. When she showed up in Rebels I was elated. I canā€™t wait to see where Filoni takes her next.

Azurephile   Super Member wrote on 08/29/2019 at 09:41pm

I had questions about her. I knew she left the Jedi Order and I wondered if she every met Darth Vader. I decided to look for her on the wiki Jon shared and I got my answers. The wiki page is very long, so I don't know that I'll read all of it right now. But, wow! I remember (from The Clone Wars) now why she left the Jedi Order, though I forgot about it. She died once, but was brought back to life by someone else's sacrifice. She met Darth Vader and it seems she died then, too, but someone went back in time and rescued her.

I actually have a Disney Infinity figure of her really close to me. Vinny got her and some others for that game, but hasn't played it in a while. I do like her, although I don't think I can really rank my favorites among Star Wars characters.

I must admit again that all this talk of Star Wars has seriously peaked my interest in it. I feel like I've become a bigger fan of Star Wars in the last few weeks than I ever have been. I never really considered myself a big fan. I liked it, but wasn't really very passionate about it, but recently that passion has exploded. I actually didn't see the original trilogy until I was in high school. And, again, oddly enough I actually like the prequelogy and Jar Jar.

Forgive me for going slightly off specific topic here. :)

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