Tale of the White Wyvern

Thank you and everyone for continuing to play it!

And yeah, you’re right about the reasoning a bit.

Once you’ve gone through maybe 18 levels total or so, those lower-charm responses from
NPCs just become worthless, and your charm stat effectively doesn’t matter. This gives it meaning again, but definitely pays you for taking away your charm.

And you can always choose not to use this if you want to keep that charm, but you’ll lose out in the long run. It’s really a better deal for you than it is Helga. 😂

We are live! The 5+ crew should have a shiny coin in their inventories now.

> You can dual class?

YES! In the Tavern you can speak to the Bartender and one of the things you can do is choose a new class! One recommendation is that if you are a Rogue or Warrior you have got your new skill point so you are not mid skill gain and dual class losing out on it.

> Personally, I want LESS PVP, not more. I'd love to see some kind of bonus for those of us (or at least me) who don't participate in the PVP aspect of the game. Although, I think it's kind of fair that this isn't the case. I just have no interest in PVP.

Sounds good. We plan on running more games that don't allow people to play PvP. The main game will and we want to get it right and not be too annoying if you don't want to PvP.

> It's already difficult to afford a room at the Inn in lower levels, but I guess saving your money for that instead of buying a weapon, armor, and a hat would resolve that issue.

Yeah, at level one staying at the Inn is still the same price which was fairly high. After that it wasn't a big deal and at very high levels it was so cheap as to be not really a cost at all. Now the cost is effectively the gold you'd get during three forest fights which is graduated to each level. So not a ton of gold, but graduated more at higher levels.

That said, let me know how it feels as to know how it plays works out in practice can take a few days to feel out.

> Good job with the Wyvern kill updating. I have one more kill to discover the last lore. I was worrying about what I'd do when I finished, like there wouldn't be much point in playing after that. So, you've resolved that. :)

Travis and I have talked a bit about extending the game and we have some fun stuff cooked up I think you'll like. I know I will.

Since i'm dead and can't tell everyone in the Inn, i'll drop the note here.

I just pushed a patch so hats effect the interest level in the bank. For instance wearing the Golden Yellow Hat would set your Bank interest rate to 7%.

The hat has to have an effect that would impact it. So all the hats that increase gold gain will impact the bank interest level.

They now say "+5% gold gain" instead of "gold find" I know it's not a full explanation and i'll think about how to work that into the instructions. Good suggestion, thanks GregoPeck!

> Think about it this way-- warrior primal scream can give you a 3x attack, OR the Disappear ability gives you (functionally) a 5x attack, but the Rogue attack strength will generally be lower.

It's actually a 4x attack because the first one just sets up the skill and burns the turn. Frankly I love this kind of game tedium

> I know the last time I killed the wyvern, I had plenty of gold in the bank, which unfortunately went unused and thus lost.

We have plans for that gold in other things we plan to add to the game but won't be coming right away. Longer term we will add some fun stuff to grind a lot of gold for.

> The number of times you can use a spell vs the number of fights you have seems a little unbalanced.

I don't quite understand what you mean, sorry.

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> A mage should use their spells first and foremost while a weapon should be secondary.

I totally agree with you here.

> I feel like magic is secondary. Maybe I have the wrong expectations here based on other RPGs.

Expectations are fine, I appreciate you mentioning it.

Two things come to mind when I think about Tale of the White Wyvern and classes and it's simplicity and game balance. No one class should feel markedly overpowered but they all should feel powerful. Frankly I think Mage is the most powerful class in the game right now, and we might fix that but I loathe nerfs.

For such a simple game, you can take many paths in Tale of the White Wyvern on how you play the game. Much of this is how you'd play an RPG like Diablo in that you pick your class and then as you level you can't pick a different path, it's fairly permanent. We allow dual classing too and depending on when you dual class you could have dramatically less skill points that someone else by the time you fight the Wyvern. When you balance a fight like the Wyvern you want it to feel hard but also accessable so a reasonable player that made good choices would kill it. We're not the kind of game where I want to dramatically penalize someone for making the wrong choices. I'd rather create a game where people can make choices and see how it lands and you might have a less fun time with some of your choices but it's not too far to the Wyvern to reset and start over and make better choices.

So to keep the game balanced at the core if you take Mage, Rogue and Warrior skills off the table we have everyone level up and gain the same amount of stats and have all weapons, armor and hats(to come on Thursday) be the same. This makes the game a bit vanilla but means that what choices we do allow you effect how easy or hard it is to kill monsters in the forest, PvP or the Wyvern.

Since I don't want one class to be the best class at killing the Wyvern I limit skills so it's easier to balance the game. Kind of like in Diablo III where all your Magic power is derived from your weapon.

Also. It might be worth considering that we change the class name to something that's more like a fighter with magical abilities. That would being it more in line with what the class is, which is kind of a hybrid.

I want to build what you are talking about Will, i'm just wondering if we do how that might effect the simplicity of the game? It would be fun to work on for sure.

> I must have played Mage horribly then, as so far I found it to be the weakest. :P

White is a 10x attack. Mage has the worst random skill gain (+3 hp) but with white, wowee, get ready for the hurt Wyvern!

> I like this. Going into it, I expected to find a traditional Mage and was disappointed when I found a class similar to the Warrior with some magic sprinkled in. The class felt more like how I would play a Paladin than a Mage.

Cool. Travis and I will think more about this and see what we can cook up.

It really does. 🤣

Just pushed the update out a bit early (enjoy)!

One other change we made was balance the Mage's White attack from a 10x -> 7x.

It was entirely too overpowered and now it feels good but not insane.

If it’s any consolation I’m a Mage about to take on the Wyvern. This is one of the reasons why I loathe nerfs. There is never a good time.

I love Will Ball for loving the hats and the new Rogue ability.

Hahaha prob commented in the wrong post.

You can play Wyvern in 4K and if your monitor is 120hz it will take advantage of that as well.

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