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Site Feature Update: Tech upgrades, some new design

Hi folks,

We have upgraded some of the frameworks we use on the site -- Bootstrap has a new major version that's been stable for a few months, and that required an upgrade to jQuery as well. As we plan out future changes to the site, these new tools make things easier for us and better for you.

Some of the tools from Bootstrap 3.x we were using are gone in 4, so we had to re-work things a bit. Fortunately, the tools that replace it in Bootstrap 4 are better, and it gave us an opportunity to improve those things with some redesigns.

For now, we just tried to make things look like the site pre-upgrade for the most part, but in situations where that wasn't possible we put on a fresh coat of paint. You'll notice some things look different, hopefully for the better! In terms of things you most likely use often, comments will be notably different, and private messages use the same kind of design now. As Jon mentioned in the comments below (can't believe I forgot to mention this!) the games lists you'll find in a few places on the site have a major overhaul and look way better than before.

Please let us know if you run into any bugs or have any other feedback!

jdodson Admin wrote on 05/19/2018 at 05:28pm

Travis did the majority of the work here, so toss all the good will to him.

One problem I've noticed for a while now was that when you were on the game list each entry looked pretty bland and samey. Each game is different and some games have a pretty rich legacy and I wanted to differentiate them when you are look at the games list. So an idea I had was to put an icon next to each game depending on what console it primarily came out on. And in the case where we have an icon for the game, display that as some do. I like the way it turned out and Travis and I iterated on the algorithm to select the right icon based on the game for a bit and like what we came up with.

https://cheerfulghost.com/games/most_popular

Travis Admin Post Author wrote on 05/19/2018 at 05:37pm

Thanks Jon!

And the games list changes Jon mentions carry over to viewing other people's games and your own game list.

Azurephile Super Member wrote on 05/19/2018 at 06:23pm

Cool! Some things do look better, nice work! I like Jon's link to most popular games. It's actually kind of surprising to find out that some games have more posts than others, like Terraria isn't higher up on the list.

Will_Ball Game Mod Super Member wrote on 05/20/2018 at 02:08am

Shut up and take my money! $$$

Thanks for managing the site Travis and Jon! It is an awesome site.

Travis Admin Post Author wrote on 05/20/2018 at 02:51am

Thanks guys!

Azurephile Super Member wrote on 05/20/2018 at 02:57am

I'm pretty impressed, really. You know how frustrated I got with advanced programming. I can do simple HTML, but I'm clueless when it comes to more advanced web design. Good job!

jdodson Admin wrote on 05/20/2018 at 03:29am

Yeah. It’s been a lot of fun. It’s been way better since I somehow convinced Travis to help.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/22/2018 at 12:14am

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Cheerful Ghost Radio Episode 23: Punch Out!!

Next month's Cheerful Ghost Games Club event is live! Come play Kid Icarus with us!
https://cheerfulghost.com/Travis/events/153/cheerful-ghost-games-club-kid-icarus

Punch Out, originally titled Mike Tyson's Punch Out before a bit of ear-biting changed Nintendo's mind, was ported from the arcade in 1987 by Nintendo R&D3. In Punch Out, players take on the role of Little Mac, fighting through three circuits and eventually facing the impossible Mr. Dream.

In season two of Cheerful Ghost Radio we are doing bite-sized NES Classic review episodes. We want to make you all part of these episodes, so if you want to join in the fun, head here and join in the event for next month's NES Classic review, Kid Icarus!

https://cheerfulghost.com/Travis/events/153/cheerful-ghost-games-club-kid-icarus

While we have you here: what kind of games from the NES Classic and SNES Classic would you like to hear us review? Would you prefer the SNES era over the NES era? If you have suggestions, head over to Cheerful Ghost to let us know.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/16/2018 at 01:35am

I think I'd give Punch Out a solid Rad as well. It's something fairly easy to pick up play (except for Tim) and not get to frustrated with at first. The difficultly definitely ramps up though. I don't recall how far I normally get, but I've never beat it.

Travis Admin Post Author wrote on 07/01/2018 at 04:26am

I finally hooked up my NES Classic and even having just played it last month, this is the first game I fired up.

<3 Punch Out

Travis Admin Post Author wrote on 07/01/2018 at 04:51am

And then Super Mario Bros. which took me an embarrassing 9 minutes to beat. I'm rusty :D

Azurephile Super Member wrote on 07/01/2018 at 08:26pm

God, I've never beaten SMB and I've only made it to 5-1 or 5-2. I suck at it. I did find my Wii Classic Controller though. I did play some SMB, SMB2&3, Metroid, Dr. Mario, and Super C (I suck at that one, too).

jdodson Admin wrote on 07/02/2018 at 12:42am

I think Travis warped to complete it so quickly

jdodson Admin wrote on 07/02/2018 at 12:42am

That said I stared a no warp SMB run and I’m in world 6. It’s a fun game that holds up.

Azurephile Super Member wrote on 07/02/2018 at 01:11am

I tried to see how far I could make it without warping and I believe I did make it to level 5. That's where my progress ends. I warp there now. I even had 5 lives going into level 5 and lost all of them. :( I suck at Mario. I get stressed out, too, and being to hate Mario. LOL I didn't grow up w/ an NES, my cousin had one and friends had one, but I only had the Gameboy and the Sega Game Gear. Later, I bought a SNES, but then lost it.

Travis Admin Post Author wrote on 07/02/2018 at 01:44am

I feel your pain with Super C. Wow that game is hard.

Travis Admin Post Author wrote on 07/02/2018 at 01:45am

And yes I totally warped for that time :D

I need to do a no-warp run.

jdodson Admin wrote on 07/02/2018 at 02:02am

I haven't really found a love for any Contra game outside the first one. If it's possible, they seem way harder too which might be why.

Azurephile Super Member wrote on 07/02/2018 at 02:15am

I tried the Konami code, but it seems I failed some how. Maybe I didn't enter it in the right place or I missed something.

Travis Admin Post Author wrote on 07/02/2018 at 03:51am

Honestly I struggle to get into the first. That kind of grueling difficulty puts me off. It’s fun but a health bar instead of dying to one hit would make it so much more fun.

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Cheerful Ghost Radio Episode 22: Avengers Infinity War

EXPECT MAJOR SPOILERS IN THE COMMENTS!!

Marvel Studios Avengers Infinity War is the latest Marvel Super Hero thing to punch the box office right in the face. If as a kid you wondered if there could ever be a comic book movie with all your favorite heroes this is the answer. Infinity War is the follow up to damn near every MCU film but more sequentially Thor Ragnarok and Black Panther.

This one is coming quickly after the last episode but we wanted to get it out early while it's still fresh in everyone's minds.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/07/2018 at 07:08pm

Ok, I'm like 10 mins in, and I need to comment before you get to Infinity War and I forget lol

I'm not sure if I'm digging Westworld as much. I think it's second season is suffering the same way Legion's second season is, in that the first season of both were AMAZING and it's hard to live up to, and then exceed those expectations.

Also, John Mulaney might be my favorite comedian ever. He's probably not, as there's a ton of comedians I love, and I just recently watched his most recent Netflix special "Kid Gorgeous" (which is amazing). What I'm saying is: Jon is wrong to not like John Mulaney ;)

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/07/2018 at 07:44pm

As far as needing context from the other movies, one of my daughters completely uninterested in Marvel movies (I did talk her into Spiderman and the first Guardians of the Galaxy movies), but for some reason she wanted to see Infinity War (pretty sure she was sucked into the BIGGEST MOVIE EVENT EVER hype around lol). She had an idea who most of the characters were, but no backstory nor investment in them, and she was crying at the end of the movie. So whilst seeing the other movies defentely makes this a deeper experience, it can be enjoyable walking into blind. (My wife also couldn't really care less about the MCU, but we dragged her along and she liked the movie as well).

(My other daughter is into nerdery and all (Star Wars, MCU, etc, and she loved the movie, just fyi lol)

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/07/2018 at 08:18pm

As far as "How does Marvel top this?" I think they totally keep going with the Phase 4, 5, 6 plans. I don't think the next few years needs to have a movie this "big," but eventually that's totally possible. There are some insanely powerful characters, that done right, could be really good for a huge team up movie.

Marvel needs to work on a few X-Men movies that exist in the MCU, then bring *everybody* together (and the Fantastic Four) to fight someone like Galactus.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/07/2018 at 08:43pm

Hmmm, thinking about the Top 3 Marvel movies, I'd have to say Infinity War, Spiderman and... maybe Iron Man. It's been a while since I've seen that one.

Travis Admin Post Author wrote on 05/07/2018 at 08:44pm

I am as into season 2 of Legion as I was in the first season. Maybe not as much for Westworld but I kinda feel like it’s building to something and may just have a slower burn.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/07/2018 at 08:46pm

Recently, I *loved* the Legion episode about Sydney.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/07/2018 at 08:48pm

Great idea about Ant-Man's end credits! I wonder if he or Wasp start disappearing, and they somehow evade it by shrinking down into the quantum realm?

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/07/2018 at 08:49pm

I feel like I live tweeted about this discussion as I was listening. Sorry that that makes it hard to respond to me lol

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/07/2018 at 09:56pm

I think "Subverting Expectations" is just a RLM (specifically Mike) comment on the movie.

PS, I listened to your discussion about the movie before the RLM discussion! Feel honored!

Will_Ball Game Mod Super Member wrote on 05/07/2018 at 10:32pm

I loved Infinity War. I haven't been this jazzed for a Marvel movie since Iron Man 1 and Avengers. I have really enjoyed all the MCU movies, but they have begun to fell a little bit derivative with there being no stakes in the movies for the main heroes. I felt this movie flipped that. They set the tone right from the start on what this movie would be like. I also enjoyed Thanos and thought they did a great job giving him dimension rather than being a one-note villain.

I would love to go into spoilers, but I don't want to spoil it in the comments.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/08/2018 at 12:08am

*Major Spoilers*

When Starlord shot Gamora (or at least tried), Thanos said "I like you." One of my main complaints with Infinity War was everyone's reluctance to sacrifice for the good of the universe (especially Cap and Crew with Vision), but Starlord was willing to sacrifice his love to save the universe, which, in Thanos's eyes, is the same thing he was willing to do.

Travis Admin Post Author wrote on 05/08/2018 at 01:30am

I just added a spoiler warning to the post. Feel free to spoil away!

jdodson Admin wrote on 05/08/2018 at 05:46am

> What I'm saying is: Jon is wrong to not like John Mulaney ;)

Happy to be wrong about that With that, he is quite funny just wasn't my style in that moment maybe it's more than that? I don't know.

jdodson Admin wrote on 05/09/2018 at 03:40am

Anyone have any thoughts where they are headed for Infinity War 2? I've heard the directors talk about some stuff that is major spoilers for the next movie, so I won't mention that but I think they are going to wrap things up well enough. I also hope that for the Avengers that won't be coming back, at least in the near future, that they send them off well. No idea who that is but it seems people think Cap and Iron Man might be departing this life.

Will_Ball Game Mod Super Member wrote on 05/09/2018 at 06:13am

Captain Marvel will join the team. I like a fan theory that Captain America will sacrifice himself to save Tony Stark. Hawkeye will be back to kick some ass. We will find out why Hulk doesn’t want to join the party. Movie ends with Tony and Pepper getting married.

Travis Admin Post Author wrote on 05/09/2018 at 12:54pm

I like the theory you mention Will. I could absolutely imagine that happening, and it would be a good out for Tony to pass the torch and still leave it open for guest appearances.

Will_Ball Game Mod Super Member wrote on 05/09/2018 at 02:16pm

Not only does it leave Tony open for guest appearances (Robert Downey Jr. got $10 million for 8 minutes in spider-man, he doesn’t want to turn down that scratch) but it also wraps up the Captain America/Tony Stark story line really well.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/09/2018 at 04:35pm

I really like Will's theories. I'm thinking Adam Warlock will likely be a part of the movie. In fact, it would be cool to mirror Infinity War, which was Thanos's movie, with Avengers 4 as an Adam Warlock movie.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/09/2018 at 04:40pm

Actually, since the directors have said AW isn't going to be in this movie (I'm still holding out hope that he is), it's probably more likely he's coming in Gaurdian's Vol 3.

jdodson Admin wrote on 05/11/2018 at 03:46am

I like that Will and hope something like it happens. I'd love for Tony to keep kicking around the MCU even if he only shows up a handful of times or practically never. But if Cap dies does he really die? What if in 20 years he doesn't mind coming back does someone clone him? I comic book movies for doing whatever they want.

Travis Admin Post Author wrote on 05/11/2018 at 08:58pm

In the comics Bucky took over as Cap for a while, maybe until a reboot? I’d imagine they could easily do that as long as Bucky sticks around. And if he wants to come back on 20 years, we have a few characters and devices that can literally rewrite reality so there are plenty of options.

Nobody is ever really dead in comics and the same probably holds true for comic movies. But they may be replaced with different actors when they come back.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/11/2018 at 10:14pm

Yeah, you can always find the character from another dimension lol. Then you can have the exact same actor play a different version of himself/herself (my favorite example is all the Harrison Wells in the CW show Flash: http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/Harrison_Wells ) or another actor playing a similar version of the character (who doesn't want to see Throg? A frog version of Thor).

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/11/2018 at 10:16pm

https://youtu.be/9cIr4Cml-kg
An example of multiple Harrison Wells' lol

Travis Admin Post Author wrote on 05/11/2018 at 10:54pm

I have many problems with The Flash, especially this season, but Harrison Wells is always a delight.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/11/2018 at 10:56pm

The Flash is the last watchable DC show for me, but I hear ya. (Not counting Black Lightning. I think I really like it, but lost track of it and need to pick it up again on Netflix sometime)

Travis Admin Post Author wrote on 05/13/2018 at 04:32pm

We are going to watch that John Mulaney special today. I don’t know much about him honestly but he did one of my favorite stand up bits ever:

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/plvv4v/comedy-central-presents-what-s-new--pussycat-

Travis Admin Post Author wrote on 05/13/2018 at 07:15pm

We watched John Mulaney’s new special and adored it. I am right there with you, Adam, I’d put him in my top tier of comedians. I can absolutely understand how people might not like his style though.

We also watched this year’s Hilarity for Charity and it was mostly ok the whole way through with a few highlights. It took a while though. The sketches fell very flat for me, especially the prolonged 10 minute dick joke at the start. The only sketch that worked for me was Jeff Goldblum’s but I mean... it’s Goldblum. I’d be shocked if it didn’t work. Mulaney was my favorite part by a long shot. I’m normally kinda hot and cold on Sarah Silverman but I loved her bit. And Tiffany Haddish is funny just by existing.

jdodson Admin wrote on 05/14/2018 at 01:44am

> It took a while though. The sketches fell very flat for me, especially the prolonged 10 minute dick joke at the start

Yeah it took a couple of watch sessions to complete. I liked most of it but some of it dragged a bit.

> Mulaney was my favorite part by a long shot. I’m normally kinda hot and cold on Sarah Silverman but I loved her bit. And Tiffany Haddish is funny just by existing.

Mulaney had a great couple minute set there. Maybe I should watch his new special, my comments were about the old one that didn't really work for me.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 05/15/2018 at 05:48pm

https://twitter.com/McJesse/status/996198724723527680
A video of Dr Strange at a waterpark lol

jdodson Admin wrote on 05/16/2018 at 01:23am

#worthit

Travis Admin Post Author wrote on 06/15/2018 at 03:21am

I'm necroing this post because Legion just finished up and we're in the home stretch of Westworld. I think the first part of Westworld was a bit of a slump to get the new plot moving but boy has it ever picked up.

Legion.... eeeehhhhhhhh I'm mixed on it. It was ok, but I felt like the first season had the perfect plot-to-weird balance and this season slipped further into weird at the expense of story. The finale left me wanting more but a little disappointed in some lazy writing choices.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 06/15/2018 at 02:03pm

I agree. There have been some really interesting individual episodes of Legion, but I have trouble getting reinterested enough to watch the next episode (I've still not watched this week's episode. I didn't realize it's the finale)

Westworld has been good, I agree that it's taken some time to really ramp up, but it's a great ride :)

Travis Admin Post Author wrote on 06/15/2018 at 02:57pm

I’m interested in hearing your thoughts when you get done with it.

AdamPFarnsworth wrote on 06/16/2018 at 05:34am

DUDE, I just finished it. I loved every second of the finale! The beginning fight was comic book perfection, then the end is kinda what I've been waiting for for the entire 2 seasons lol. Some of these episodes probably could have been condensed, but wow. That was a great payoff And cliffhanger lol. I take back what I've said before and TOTALLY recommend everyone watch Legion.

(I had the added benefit of watching this on my phone. I had the brightness turn up to the max and my headphones on, so all the trippy parts we amplified lol)

(I'm going to go watch that beginning fight again now!)

Travis Admin Post Author wrote on 06/16/2018 at 05:50am

There are three things I don't like about the ending and I'll be as vague as possible to avoid spoilers.

1. That one person who was present at the end who reeeeeally shouldn't be out and about.

2. It's just a bit tropey. There's a good guy who is a bad guy... or is he? Yes, he is... ooooooor is heeeee?

3. There was a bit of a lack of tact in the writing for what he did to Sid.

1 and 2 at least could be machinations of a certain character influencing people. A lot of how I feel about the finale will depend on how next season tackles it.

BUT overall I definitely agree with you about it and yeah, that initial fight scene was some of the best trippy stuff we've seen!

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Cheerful Ghost Radio Episode 21: Chrono Trigger

Chrono Trigger is a classic RPG originally released in 1995 by Square-Enix back when they were still Squaresoft. It is considered by many as one of the greatest video games of the 16 bit era. Visitors to Cheerful Ghost have probably read Jon’s post about having recently played the game for the first time. This is one of Tim’s favorite games of all time, so the two of them sat down to discuss how they see the game coming at it at very different times in their lives.

Valve Has Purchased Campo Santo, Developers of 'Firewatch'

Firewatch by Campo Santo is an indie darling that released to great reviews and scored a movie deal. It's on my backlog, and I hope to play it soon. The art style and the narration in the trailers really sell a one-of-a-kind experience.

Valve was apparently sold on the game as well because today it was confirmed that Valve will be acquiring Campo Santo, and the team will keep working on their current project, In the Valley of Gods which will release on PC in 2019. This new game is an adventure game set in Egypt, where you play as an explorer and filmmaker searching for discoveries and filming the process.

It's not Half-Life 3, but it's a new story-driven game from Valve! I'm excited to see Valve get back into making games, and acquiring good talent is a great way to make it happen. I can't wait to see what else Valve might have in store.

Source: https://www.engadget.com/2018/04/21/campo-santo-team-joins-valve/

Serious Sam 4: Planet Badass is coming, details at E3

So far we don't know much, but Serious Sam 4 is coming and there are lots kamikazes AAAAAAAAAHHHHHH-ing like you'd expect.

Croteam launched the Steam store page today with a teaser and a promo image. More info is coming during E3, according to the trailer.

The Serious Sam games are some of my faves, so I'm looking forward to seeing more.

Terraria 1.3.6 Spoilers

Since Terraria: Otherworld's cancellation I've been checking out what's coming in Terraria 1.3.6. Today, a new feature was teased that I had to come talk about: Block Replacement. If you're like me, you start building and then get the ability to get better stuff, so you tear down your build and start over. I rarely build anything permanent until near Hardmode, or at least post-Skeletron. This feature will let you replace blocks if you have a pickax equipped that is strong enough to mine the block you're replacing. You can even change out chests, and it will keep the contents. This could also help when you want some ore that happens to be holding in a lake and you don't want to flood everything. See it in action here: https://twitter.com/Terraria_Logic/status/985930661268742145

Other neat stuff is coming, including new backgrounds and splash screens (pictured above), various effects to make things feel more alive, Razer Chroma support, some new and tweaked weapons, and a mystery ability that makes things float around the player.

See a full list of everything we know about here: https://terraria.gamepedia.com/Upcoming_features#1.3.6

Timogorgon Member wrote on 04/17/2018 at 03:06am

I think we're going to need to host another server once the update hits. ;)

Azurephile Super Member wrote on 04/17/2018 at 03:28am

Cool and I agree w/ Tim.

Azurephile Super Member wrote on 04/17/2018 at 06:51pm

Hey look! I've already talked about some of the spoilers we've seen in the last year. I included some good videos from ChippyGaming. :) https://cheerfulghost.com/GregoPeck/posts/3355/1-3-6-spoilers

Travis Admin Post Author wrote on 04/17/2018 at 10:04pm

Oh man, that was almost a year ago. I get why people are clamoring for 1.3.6 now.

Azurephile Super Member wrote on 05/23/2018 at 03:26am

Whoa! No more NPC constipation! Check out the latest spoiler explained by ChippyGaming. https://youtu.be/sj7x47ul2d0

Travis Admin Post Author wrote on 05/23/2018 at 03:35am

OMG, that has to be a joke right? I mean... right?

Azurephile Super Member wrote on 05/23/2018 at 04:04am

Ugh, I can't seem to find it. I think he said it was on Tumblr, but I go there and it looks like a mess and I can't find this new spoiler. I trust ChippyGaming. If you want to look for it and verify it, go right ahead. LOL

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3D Realms Is Back With a New Game On an Old Engine: Ion Maiden

Longing for the old days of first-person shooters? 3D Realms has you covered with Ion Maiden. Running on the same engine as Duke Nukem 3D, Blood, Shadow Warrior, and others, this game aims to reclaim the mayhem of the 90s shooters. Because, basically, it IS a 90s shooter.

Ion Maiden is currently in Early Access on Steam, with the first level set playable. Reviews are Overwhelmingly Positive, with only 13 negative reviews out of 554 total.

What do you think? Are you in the mood for a new classic FPS?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/562860/Ion_Maiden/

Sega Megadrive (Genesis) Mini Coming in 2018

No doubt capitalizing on the massive popularity of the NES Classic and SNES Classic, Sega will be releasing their own famous home console, the Megadrive or Genesis depending on which part of the world you lived in during the 16-bit era.

Details are sparse at the moment, but the retro revival is still strong. I grew up with a Genesis because SEGA DOES WHAT NINTENDON'T amirite? So I'm super excited about this, because unlike some of my other classic systems, my Genesis is a little flaky, and maybe this new mini-Genesis will come with some of the games I drooled over as a kid but never got to play.

It's important to note, however, that this hasn't been announced outside of Japan yet, so it's possible that we won't see it in the west, but that would be surprising.

Don't confuse this with the unofficial Sega Genesis Flashback. China's AtGames released this a couple years back, but it was not first-party and had no shortage of issues. Here's hoping the official version will be much better.
https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/06/dont-buy-that-classic-sega-mega-drive-just-yet/

Via cnet: https://www.cnet.com/news/sega-megadrive-mini-announce/

Official announcement: https://youtu.be/bLHAMwGyDNE?t=51m

jdodson Admin wrote on 04/14/2018 at 03:54pm

I hope this is awesome. My friends got the flash back and that would have been cool except the input lag was terrible so they returned it. I hope this is incredible and if so, I’ll buy one. These mini systems can be really great if done well.

Azurephile Super Member wrote on 04/16/2018 at 10:27pm

I noticed in the CNet link that this is only going to be available in Japan, "for now."

I bought the Flashback, but haven't really messed with it. I do have the Megadrive & Genesis collection on Steam, although it doesn't include every game I'd like to see.

This could be cool, like the Nintendo re-releases.

Travis Admin Post Author wrote on 04/17/2018 at 01:52am

Yeah I mentioned that in the post so that it wouldn't get people's hopes up yet, but I would be shocked if it stays in Japan.

Azurephile Super Member wrote on 04/17/2018 at 03:29am

I'm sorry, I overlooked it.

Travis Admin Post Author wrote on 04/17/2018 at 04:10pm

No worries, it definitely bears repeating!

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Terraria: Otherworld Has Been Canceled

Unfortunately, Terraria: Otherwold has been canceled. Re-Logic today announced the cancellation of a greatly anticipated kinda-sequel to Terraria which has seen many development issues over the years.

From the announcement:
"Our team has a clear vision for this game – one that we shared with all of you with much shared excitement – and, in spite of all of our efforts, the current state of the game remains equal parts far from that vision and beyond behind schedule from our initial planning when we shared Otherworld with all of you three years ago. Progress has absolutely been made during that time – but unfortunately, a very thorough status review of the game versus its intended design showed both the Re-Logic and 505/Pipeworks teams that things were quite a bit further away from the finish line than we had imagined. Taking the massive amount of work that would be remaining to complete along with the extensive time it would take to get that done, and how that would greatly interfere with the pursuit of other projects on behalf of Re-Logic – it becomes clear that this leaves things in a very undesirable state.

As a result, we have made the decision to terminate development of Terraria: Otherworld."

I'm disappointed because it looked very interesting, but I'm not surprised. They've been open about all the development issues that have plagued the game, and it seems as though they were never quite able to manage those issues.

They also shared the next steps for Re-Logic:

In hindsight, it goes without saying that we never should have spoken publicly about this game as early-on as we did. We will fully own that error in judgement. Moving forward, we will be far more judicious about only sharing information on projects in which we are fully confident in regards to timing, etc. We can only apologize for all of the emotional rollercoaster this caused.

Trying to outsource development of such a critical title for our company – even if just in part – was not the way to go. Moving ahead, our focus for the core development of new/future titles will be more inward and will seek to utilize our own people. We will share more information there just as soon as we have it.

Re-Logic has possession of the game (design, code, art, sounds, etc.) as it exists today, and there are still a ton of amazing ideas under the hood here – many of which have never been publicly shared. These are ideas that we have not and will not forget and that you will very likely see implemented in our future titles.

Active development of Terraria continues - 1.3.6 is still very much in active development. We know that we have not shared a lot in the way of spoilers there – but rest assured that the team has been working tirelessly on our next PC wave.

This keeps our partners at 505/Pipeworks wholly focused on Console/Mobile/Switch – and there is still a TON to get done there, so that should be good.

Overall I see this as simultaneously disappointing and good news. We may never see what might have been, but we can stop wondering about it and look forward to what Re-Logic has for us in the future.

Full announcement: https://forums.terraria.org/index.php?threads/this-is-the-end-otherworld-development-cancelled.68594/

Azurephile Super Member wrote on 04/14/2018 at 01:35am

Dang, I was really looking forward to Otherworld. At first I wasn't so sure about it, but then I guess it grew on me. I want more Terraria. I'm glad they're still working on 1.3.6, it has been a year or so since I've seen anything new about it.

Travis Admin Post Author wrote on 04/14/2018 at 02:16am

Cennxx posted some new spoilers about 1.3.6 recently. Some sort of thing that can locally change gravity maybe? And underground fossils.

https://twitter.com/Cennxx

Azurephile Super Member wrote on 04/14/2018 at 02:18am

Cool thanks for sharing! (I left Twitter a couple years ago or so.)

jdodson Admin wrote on 04/15/2018 at 02:55am

I don't do this for a lot of games but whatever Terraria sequel comes out, i'm going to buy it. Sad to hear this one isn't coming out but I don't think I quite got what it was. I don't think they talked much about it for it to form in my mind what kind of game it was. It seemed to be a story based Terraria open game but I'm not really sure about that.

Making games is hard and open ended games more so. Wish them well on what they are doing and if history is a guide we'll keep getting trickling Terraria updates, which is all I guess I could want. Frankly we have a great game, a sequel would be awesome but how much more awesome could a new Terraria game be? I don't know, I guess we'll see.

Azurephile Super Member wrote on 04/15/2018 at 05:59am

@Jon from what I read it was supposed to be a Terraria tower defense game. At least that seems to be what I remember. Also, the wiki does state Terraria 2 under future projects or whatever.

Travis Admin Post Author wrote on 04/15/2018 at 03:14pm

Yeah there were going to be tower defense elements at least. It seemed like the the whole motivation was to purify the world. That was something you could do in Terraria but it’s kinda boring. The tower defense in Otherworld was about keeping the corruption from spreading.

I’d like to see some of that in a future Terraria update. A tower at the edge of the corruption to keep it from spreading would be way more fun than digging a 5 block cavern all the way to the underworld

jdodson Admin wrote on 04/18/2018 at 12:42am

Tower defense 2D sidescroller? Huh. Ok. I really wonder how far they got and sad they couldn't show more of it just to share what they made. That said, I imagine that would drive some fans a bit nuts.

Travis Admin Post Author wrote on 04/18/2018 at 01:35am

Yeah I don’t think it was like 100% tower defense driven that was just part of it

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