Now that the NES Classic has launched and is getting incredible reviews I was wondering what we'd all like to see in a future Super Nintendo Mini launch? Curious what games people would put on it and make sure to limit your list to 30 games. Personally I think the Super Nintendo was one of the best consoles of all time and the game catalog is nothing short of incredible. Nintendo might not be able to license out each game on our lists but i'm curious what all our dream lists would be?
Drop your list in the comments and i'll do the same.
Azurephile Super Member
wrote on 11/12/2016 at 04:29am
Difficult to say...All Marios, Tetris Attack, Dr Mario (it's on the SNES right?), All Mortal Kombats, Zelda, Super Metroid, maybe Street Fighter...oh and how could I forget the Final Fantasy games and Chrono Trigger...
Super Mario World 1 and 2 obviously, Mario Kart, Mario All-Stars (kinda cheating), Actraiser (required), Actraiser 2 (optional), Super Metroid, Chrono Trigger, Star Fox, Super Punch Out, Zelda: A Link to the Past, Final Fantasy "2" and "3", NBA Jam, Street Fighter 2 (the kinda ultimate version, whatever it was called), MK1, 2, and UMK 3, Killer Instinct, all 5 of the Mega Man games that aren't soccer games. That's 24.......
Six more copies of Actraiser.
jdodson Admin Post Author
wrote on 11/12/2016 at 05:52am
Not really in an order
1. Link to the Past 2. Starfox 3. Romance of the Three Kingdoms 2 4. Super Mario World 5. Donkey Kong Country 6. Final Fantasy IV 7. Final Fantasy VI 8. Super Street Fighter II Turbo 9. Super Metroid 10. Mario Kart 11. Yoshi's Island 12. Mortal Kombat 13. Super Star Wars 14. Secret of Mana 15. Chrono Trigger 16. Earthbound 17. Super Mario RPG 18. Castlevania IV 19. ActRaiser 20. Zombies ate my Neighbors 21. Simcity 2000 22. Harvest Moon
That's all I could think of but I might be missing something.. oh right.
23. NBA Jam (like Travis said)
Azurephile Super Member
wrote on 11/12/2016 at 06:00am
Hell yeah, guys! I forgot many of them. I agree with NBA Jam, though I think I played it on the Genesis. I remember it being a fun game.
I think that's pretty much everything! Putting together a list makes me realize there weren't a ton of great games on those early systems, as compared to the standing army that is our Steam game lists (apples and oranges, I know, but still...).
There were 720ish games released for it here, I'm sure there are some great games in there that we've missed, but yeah it was a different time. It seems like there are 720 games released in a month these days.
Also-- I need to add Earthworm Jim 1 and 2 to my list, and the Lion King which was a surprisingly good game.
One would think that, but I don't believe it has anything to do with it. I have no idea where the name of the game came from. It's really good though. A tough side scrolling shooter. https://youtu.be/_B0xfgdPdMQ
U.N. Squadron! I forgot about that game but yes, it deserves a place on this list. Wikipedia says it was based on a Manga by the same name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.N._Squadron
Since this is a fictional list, I'm going to add a game that was never released in the west: Seiken densetsu III, the sequel to Secret of Mana. It's downright criminal this was never released on SNES back-in-the-day. It's a fun game and it also had the co-op multiplayer aspect.
Will_Ball Game Mod Super Member
wrote on 11/15/2016 at 11:01pm
Super R-Type!
jdodson Admin Post Author
wrote on 11/16/2016 at 02:58am
jdodson Admin Post Author
wrote on 11/18/2016 at 03:24pm
All but certain Nintendo will do a SNES mini. Some have said they can do them up to the Nintendo 64 and I think I'd buy them all if they did. Not sure it will ship with 30 games but even if they include half of our list it would be awesome.
Azurephile Super Member
wrote on 11/18/2016 at 03:51pm
That would be sweet!!! Still it'd be sweeter if we could have more games available for each system.
CygnusDestroyer is back trying a case in Innocent Until Proven Guilty court for the Sega classic Micheal Jackson's Moonwalker. As someone that was exclusively Nintendo I was always interested in this game but never owned it. Every time I played it in the Arcade and at a friends house I rather liked it but it was only a level or two and never got the full King of Pop game experience. As with all the IUPG CygnusDestroyer videos I think his verdict is fair and gives this classic a new look.
Blaster Master is an NES classic that many have fond memories of. What's not to love in a game where you can not only drive a tank but get out and explore on foot? The gameplay was great and upgrading the tank and your character was fun and as you progressed you felt like a badass. In retrospect my only minor gripe with Blaster Master is the same one I had with many NES games in that there was no save feature on the game cart. Developer Inti Creates and Sunsoft are partnering up to launch the all new Blaster Master Zero that will come out exclusively on the Nintendo 3DS and I hope later the Switch.
"Using the original Blaster Master game as a base, we are setting out to create a fully 8-bit experience in a way that both hearkens back to the golden age of the NES and uses the current generation hardware to optimize and power up the game for the players of today. This of course includes new areas and bosses, and new gameplay elements such as extra sub-weapons, improved gameplay when battling outside of your SOPHIA 3rd tank, a more robust scenario, refined and expanded exploration mechanics, and more."
Blaster Master Zero looks like an extension of the original game but does add new features such as in level gun switching and improved weapons. But at it's core it looks like if you loved the original game and always wanted more this is something you need to check out.
So it's post election time in the United States and I think we can all agree that it's been a very rough season. Many years ago I started listening to more Classical music during another particularlly charged election year because I was drawn to music that had less of an agenda by not featuring words. Which is why I think I enjoy listening to amazing video game scores. Not only is the music great but it's also a more personal experience beacuse the meaning isn't often as obvious.
FEZ is a very special Indie platformer that I consider to be one of the games that kicked off the Indie revolution. FEZ packs a bunch of charm and has a special kind of magic to it as you make your way collecting Tetrominoes. One big part of the whole experience is the score by Disasterpiece that is a nearly perfect collection of 26 tracks that weave the game together. Initially FEZ launched on the XBox 360 but I first played it after it came to PC. I picked up the score in a later Humble Bundle that had it as part of a download and it's been in constaint rotation on my iPhone and in nearly every playlist of albums i'm listening to. This might seem a bit strange but if I need to center myself or need to focus on something I put on the FEZ score. During my first Hearthstone fireside brawl I played the FEZ score during my matches to help as it contains some really moving pieces like the track Compass that seems more a series of notes meant to have you exist in the moment than draw you to any particular goal. I find that lack of agenda to be one of the best places to play Hearthstone from as its often easier to come to a good series of plays naturally than overthink something.
As we come out of this particularly hard election season I encourage you to find things that can bring you better to a centered place and for me one thing thing that helps is listening to the soundtrack to FEZ. But you know if blasting demons in Doom helps that's fine too. Hit me up in the comments love to hear what people are into.
You can listen to the whole FEZ score in it's entirely on Spotify for free by hitting the link below:
I was able to attend this years Steam Developer Days and had a great time. One big draw of the conference was the talks and Valve has dropped them all on their YouTube page. I linked to one really great talk above by Mike Ambinder on the Psychology of Games I recommend you watch. There are 25 talks available from this years Dev Days so if you are in need of some awesome game talks and have some time, hit the link below.
There was a lot of news out of this years BlizzCon and the bit that was most interesting to me was next Hearthstone expansion Mean Streets of Gagetzan. As with the last expansion Whispers of the Old Gods, Gadgetzan is a 132 card expansion that looks to contain some really fun elements that should mix up the current meta.
"All in the Family: Each class belongs to one of the city's three factions. Your class cards and neutral minions all fall into that faction's theme. The affiliations are:
Faction Specials: Aside from class affiliations, the three factions each have their own unique twist.
Multi-Class Cards: Some neutral minions are only available to members of their faction; for example, a Grimestreet Informant (a member of the Grimy Goons) can only be in Hunter, Paladin, or Warrior decks."
I like that this expansion allows you many more uses for the cards in that certain cards can be used by multiple classes. From the cards they've revealed so far the expansion looks to make Priest a much more viable class. Some say Priest is headed for tier 1 status and from the cards they've revealed, that's a solid possibility. So far Blizzard hasn't dropped a release date yet but if they are keeping with the two expansions and an adventure release clip it should be out this month. Currently I have over 6k gold so on Gadgetzan launch I should be able to open over 60 packs! Whereas I won't be able to get every card I will get many of them and opening that many packs is always a lot of fun.
If you are looking to get back in to Hearthstone I recommend you check it out as Blizzard recently added quests that make it much easier to get gold. Many quests are now things like "Play 10 pirates" or "Play 20 battlecry minions" making the game much easier to run through your dailies. You might need to re-roll your quests if you have a full roster of old "Win X Games" quests but if you stepped away because Hearthstone was too hard a grind, it might be more accessible to you now.
Someone on Reddit is updating the link below with all the new Gadgetzan cards so head over there if you are curious what will be coming in the expansion.
Ocarina of Time is a classic Nintendo 64 game that is considered by some to be the best game of all time. Since Ocarina is such a popular game that over time it has become on of the most competitive games for speedrunning. I've tried to cover each new world record set for Ocarina and today the record has been beaten yet again by skater82297 at 17:24. A new time skip was found that involves collecting a bottle in the Deku tree that skips you directly to Gannons Castle. This was a fun run to watch and it's great to see people keep making Ocarina one of the best games to watch.
Will_Ball Game Mod Super Member
wrote on 11/04/2016 at 03:38pm
I liked him yelling at whomever, I like to think it was his parents. :)
I love all the little quirks people can find in game physics to make you go faster.
It's impressive that based on his early performance, shaving off over 8 seconds from where previous runs were, he could knock a ton of time off still. I guess that's what keeps speedrunners going.
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MetalJesusRocks is one of my favorite retro YouTubers because his videos contain stuff I don't see anywhere else like this video for the Pioneer LaserActive. The LaserActive was a LaserDisc player and console released back in the 90's that could play it's own games as well as Karaoke, Sega Genesis games and 3D games. I remember seeing this in the stores and thought it was awesome but it was crazy expensive for the 90's and I knew no one that actually owned it. As i've been collecting more old films on VHS I am getting closer to pulling the trigger on a LaserDisc player and if I ever found one of these would snap it up in a second if the price was right. That said, it's huge because it has to hold LaserDiscs but... you now... that just means it's retro awesome right?
Ubisoft has celebrated it's 30th year anniversary giving away some gaming classics such as Beyond Good and Evil, Rayman Origins, Splinter Cell and Prince of Persia Sands of Time. They are rounding out the celebration with a final set of two games and Novembers game is the 80's retro themed shooter Far Cry Blood Dragon. If you haven't played this you absolutely should head over to the link below on November 9th and redeem it on your UPlay account. Blood Dragon is a standalone game built on the Far Cry 3 engine that was written like a spiritual sequel to old 80's classics such as Terminator, Tron and Predator. It's not a very long game and can be completed in well under 10 hours and doesn't require the latest and greatest PC hardware to run.
If the second to last giveaway is a FarCry game I am wondering if the final giveaway will be Assassins Creed?
Azurephile Super Member
wrote on 11/03/2016 at 04:17am
I think I may need a reminder for when the game is available. I might check it out. I haven't played any Far Cry games, although I have been tempted to check out Far Cry Primal.
*This comment was edited because after posting it, I realized you posted when the game will be available.*
jdodson Admin Post Author
wrote on 11/03/2016 at 04:27am
If you have an iPhone you can hit it and ask Siri to remind you to sign up to get Far Cry 3 on November 9th. I do it all the time and it reminds me to take out the trash when I get home and do things at certain times. It's way better than a list sometimes
Azurephile Super Member
wrote on 11/03/2016 at 04:51am
I have a dumb phone, never owned a smart phone, nor an iPhone. However, I could set it up on the calendar I use on my phone for appointments and such.
I have noticed you playing a Far Cry game and thought about asking you about it. I don't recall which it was, could have been FC3. FC Primal does look interesting.
jdodson Admin Post Author
wrote on 11/03/2016 at 04:53am
This year I finally finished up Far Cry 3(check my posts on it) and then started up Blood Dragon and played it till about half way then I stopped for some reason. I think maybe one reason is I just finished Far Cry 3 and I was kind of done with that kind of game at that time even though I much preferred Blood Dragon's unique style.
jdodson Admin Post Author
wrote on 11/03/2016 at 04:54am
Sorry, LAST YEAR I finished Far Cry 3. Jeez, 2016 is nearly over.... seems like it just started.
Azurephile Super Member
wrote on 11/10/2016 at 04:18am
I remembered! Getting it downloaded now.
Azurephile Super Member
wrote on 11/15/2016 at 11:23pm
Holy cow! Massive savings on the Far Cry games in the Ubisoft store! They're all either 50% or 75% off! FC Primal is $30, FC4 is $20, FC3 is $5, FC and FC2 are $2.50 each. Sale ends on 11/20.
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In this episode of Nintendo's new online web show the Nintendo Minute they show off the upcoming NES Classic and quite a few games that come with it. There are a few details confirmed here such as the 3 foot long controllers and the incredible NES Classic interface in action. Not thrilled with the cord length and i'm honestly curious what the thinking was here? Do they expect us to stretch out the HDMI cable to make room from the TV to the couch? I hope someone makes some extension cables or something because that would make using the system in the living room much easier. I imagine if you were plugging the NES classic in to your monitor then the small cords wouldn't matter as much but this system is made for the living room.
Regardless of "NES Cordgate" I'm picking one up because it's pretty incredible and I saw an unboxing today that made things even more compelling. Not only does the NES Classic come in a box that pays homage to the original but it also comes with a poster that looks like it stepped right out of the 80's. If you want to watch the unboxing hit the link below.
Azurephile Super Member
wrote on 11/03/2016 at 04:00am
Interesting. I think I'd like to see some other games played on it (like SMB3). The controller cable length does stink. The Genesis that I got years ago, which looks similar in size, uses wireless controllers. I wonder why Nintendo didn't do that for this (granted we're talking about two different companies). My guess is that they decided to keep the cord for nostalgia, which is pretty much what this new mini-NES is all about. I have a small area set up. My TV is sitting on top of a dresser which is to the right of my PC. Then I have two "computer" chairs, one in front of my PC and one (belonging to my son) in front of the TV. So, I can imagine hooking it up and playing it easily enough. I'm glad that it has an HDMI cable. I'm also curious as to whether or not the power cable is actually some form of USB, which I think would be great.
I'm still not sure about getting this, I think I may wait and see. Who knows what Santa might bring me for being a good boy this year! LOL
jdodson Admin Post Author
wrote on 11/03/2016 at 04:26am
> The Genesis that I got years ago, which looks similar in size, uses wireless controllers. I wonder why Nintendo didn't do that for this (granted we're talking about two different companies).
Keep costs low. This is a $60 system "cutting the cord length" shaves off a few pennies and allows the packaging to be small.
> My guess is that they decided to keep the cord for nostalgia, which is pretty much what this new mini-NES is all about.
You know that is true. Whereas the United States NES had way longer cords, the Japanese Famicom had SUPER short cords. This may well be a throw back to that. So, yeah they do save some money here but maybe it's an to the original Famicom controller length?
> I'm also curious as to whether or not the power cable is actually some form of USB, which I think would be great.
It is. The unboxing video shows it to be micro or mini USB powered.
Azurephile Super Member
wrote on 11/03/2016 at 04:59am
> Keep costs low. This is a $60 system "cutting the cord length" shaves off a few pennies and allows the packaging to be small.
That makes sense, although I'm sure this Genesis I bought years ago cost about that much, maybe even less, at my local grocery store (Kroger).
>You know that is true. Whereas the United States NES had way longer cords, the Japanese Famicom had SUPER short cords. >This may well be a throw back to that. So, yeah they do save some money here but maybe it's an to the original Famicom >controller length?
I remember the super long NES controller cables, those were sweet! I never knew much about the Famicom, but from what I can recall seeing, I think you're right and perhaps this small cable was a nostalgic nod to that.
>It is. The unboxing video shows it to be micro or mini USB powered.
That's what it looks like, which makes powering it so much easier. I can think of a few devices I have (Kindle, phone, etc.) that use that kind of power. Plus, if you can plug it into a USB port on your PC and then plug in the HDMI cable (if you have a free input port), you could totally play it on your PC, which would be sweet! I know my GTX 690 had extra HDMI slots, but I believe the 980Ti only has one.
Anyway, here's hoping that they release a new mini-SNES and maybe a mini-N64!!! Shall we go even further with a mini-Gamecube? Maybe all of that is just wishful thinking, but we shall see!
Speaking of the Gamecube, I think it's interesting that this new mini-NES is about the size of a Wavebird controller (I have one and love it).
Will_Ball Game Mod Super Member
wrote on 11/03/2016 at 05:06am
Still not buying it.
jdodson Admin Post Author
wrote on 11/03/2016 at 05:18am
And those hdmi ports on your video card don't work as input I wouldn't imagine.
Azurephile Super Member
wrote on 11/03/2016 at 02:11pm
Thanks for the link, Travis. SMB3 looks pretty much how I remember it, with the graphically oddity on the left and right side of the screen. I wonder if that would change if it was played with the Pixel Perfect filter. I skipped through the video and SMB seems to look better, so I think he's still using the Pixel Perfect filter while playing it. If that's right, then that's cool that you can switch between that classic look and something cleaner.
Will_Ball Game Mod Super Member
wrote on 11/03/2016 at 07:37pm
I just watched the gameplay video. Awesome watching those old games in action. I hope this does well. I would have bought one of these if they made it so you can add more games. I will just keeping powering on my original NES and playing games on that. :)
Yeah Will, I'm kinda at that point. I'm drooling over this but I have probably 3/4 of the games on my shelf right now so it's not $60 worth. If I get it as a gift I'll love it!
More news: yeah the controller situation is bad. If you have the console on the floor at your feet, it is stretched to the max when you're sitting in a chair. The only workable situation I can think of is sitting on the floor as far back as your HDMI cable will allow. Luckily you can get extensions for it.
Also, you can use the Wii Classic Controller with it and the Home button will let you change games so you don't have to hit the reset button.
Azurephile Super Member
wrote on 11/03/2016 at 08:52pm
I thought that controller port looked familiar. I do have the Wii Classic Controller.
jdodson Admin Post Author
wrote on 11/04/2016 at 03:10am
> Luckily you can get extensions for it.
Do you know who sells them? I haven't seen any yet.
> but I have probably 3/4 of the games on my shelf right now so it's not $60 worth. If I get it as a gift I'll love it!
I don't have many of these games. The popular ones I do but Balloon Fight and others I don't have. It's a savings for me just to round out my NES collection.
I thought I saw one on Amazon yesterday but now I can't find it. I may have seen it somewhere else.
Azurephile Super Member
wrote on 11/05/2016 at 06:04am
I found an article about this. The more I read and see about it, the more I feel like getting it. I just wish we could get more games for it. Ultimately, I wish we could get the entire NES library, but that's pretty much a pipe dream (Mario puns anyone?). Still, I'm hoping Nintendo gives this same treatment to the other classic consoles that we know and love so much. Anyway, check out a small review:
jdodson Admin Post Author
wrote on 11/10/2016 at 06:33am
That's a nice option. Thanks Greg!
Azurephile Super Member
wrote on 12/10/2016 at 07:10am
So, I told one of "Santa's" messengers that one thing I kind of want for Christmas is a NES Classic Edition that costs $60. However, Amazon is showing it for no less than $200. That's probably because the supply sucks. I watched a video about it that said stores only got a few of them. One guy tried to get it from GameStop, but they said they were sold out before the store even opened, the store's employees bought them. He said Wal-Mart only had about that many as well. You can check out the short video below.
jdodson Admin Post Author
wrote on 12/10/2016 at 03:04pm
I call Target every morning but yesterday they said they got one in stock and someone was there at 5am for it. I don't think I'll have one under my tree this year.
Yeah they really needed more supply. I keep hearing the "well, you should have pre-ordered it" argument but that's just not true. It's new (kinda) hardware that could absolutely suck, pre-ordering is dangerous.
jdodson Admin Post Author
wrote on 12/10/2016 at 03:54pm
I'm not sure where you could pre-order it from? GameStop or something? Amazon certainly didn't allow that.
Difficult to say...All Marios, Tetris Attack, Dr Mario (it's on the SNES right?), All Mortal Kombats, Zelda, Super Metroid, maybe Street Fighter...oh and how could I forget the Final Fantasy games and Chrono Trigger...
Super Mario World 1 and 2 obviously, Mario Kart, Mario All-Stars (kinda cheating), Actraiser (required), Actraiser 2 (optional), Super Metroid, Chrono Trigger, Star Fox, Super Punch Out, Zelda: A Link to the Past, Final Fantasy "2" and "3", NBA Jam, Street Fighter 2 (the kinda ultimate version, whatever it was called), MK1, 2, and UMK 3, Killer Instinct, all 5 of the Mega Man games that aren't soccer games. That's 24.......
Six more copies of Actraiser.
Not really in an order
1. Link to the Past
2. Starfox
3. Romance of the Three Kingdoms 2
4. Super Mario World
5. Donkey Kong Country
6. Final Fantasy IV
7. Final Fantasy VI
8. Super Street Fighter II Turbo
9. Super Metroid
10. Mario Kart
11. Yoshi's Island
12. Mortal Kombat
13. Super Star Wars
14. Secret of Mana
15. Chrono Trigger
16. Earthbound
17. Super Mario RPG
18. Castlevania IV
19. ActRaiser
20. Zombies ate my Neighbors
21. Simcity 2000
22. Harvest Moon
That's all I could think of but I might be missing something.. oh right.
23. NBA Jam (like Travis said)
Hell yeah, guys! I forgot many of them. I agree with NBA Jam, though I think I played it on the Genesis. I remember it being a fun game.
Donkey Kong Country! All of those!
I think that's pretty much everything! Putting together a list makes me realize there weren't a ton of great games on those early systems, as compared to the standing army that is our Steam game lists (apples and oranges, I know, but still...).
There were 720ish games released for it here, I'm sure there are some great games in there that we've missed, but yeah it was a different time. It seems like there are 720 games released in a month these days.
Also-- I need to add Earthworm Jim 1 and 2 to my list, and the Lion King which was a surprisingly good game.
Oh and they would never do it for obvious reasons but: Super Noah's Ark 3D
Noah's ark 3D? I'd buy that for a dollar.
F-zero! You need to add that to the list.
And Super Bomberman.
Oh yeah! F-zero is a keeper. Never played Super Bomberman but I think I remember people liking it.
I'd add:
UN Squadron
Contra 3: The Alien War
Super Castlevania IV
Oh, I see Castlevania IV is already on Jon's list :)
@Adam is UN Squadron about the United Nations?
One would think that, but I don't believe it has anything to do with it. I have no idea where the name of the game came from. It's really good though. A tough side scrolling shooter.
https://youtu.be/_B0xfgdPdMQ
U.N. Squadron! I forgot about that game but yes, it deserves a place on this list. Wikipedia says it was based on a Manga by the same name.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.N._Squadron
Since this is a fictional list, I'm going to add a game that was never released in the west: Seiken densetsu III, the sequel to Secret of Mana. It's downright criminal this was never released on SNES back-in-the-day. It's a fun game and it also had the co-op multiplayer aspect.
Super R-Type!
Looks like the Famicom Mini is just as popular in Japan http://kotaku.com/1788988883
All but certain Nintendo will do a SNES mini. Some have said they can do them up to the Nintendo 64 and I think I'd buy them all if they did. Not sure it will ship with 30 games but even if they include half of our list it would be awesome.
That would be sweet!!! Still it'd be sweeter if we could have more games available for each system.
I would get the SNES and N64 mini in half a heartbeat because I don't have nearly as many of those games in my collection.
The mini snes might be worth it given the high resale value of existing games. It could be a good deal!