Doom

I look forward to this every year! The only problem is that I have games to play but now I want to watch other people play them super fast.

I only picked winners! :) And yes, I agree that's a great graphic by scrypt!

I voted for Super Mario Run for the best mobile game. While it has problems (incredibly frustrating ones) I find it to be very fun. Pokemon Go also has problems, probably even bigger ones, but it deserves the win. It had a huge impact.

I voted for Pokemon Go because I finally have an Android smartphone, which means I can finally play it! :)

I'd like to offer some observations. As for our small beloved group, I think NMS is our game of the year. Remember when many of us were blowing up the event's comments section and we had to switch to two forum posts? I think we talked more about NMS in 2016 than any other game and there were many of us involved in that. I am glad that we did not succumb to, promote, or expand the negativity it received from what seems to be a lot of other gamers. I'm not saying we called it a perfect game, but we still enjoyed it (and still do).

I also am thinking about the games that I saw most played by my Steam friends. There are very few of them (friends and games). Many of my friends (I'd say about 4 of them) played a lot of Ark, as I did, too. I also saw one or two playing Rocket League often. One of my friends also played Overwatch a bit, which isn't a Steam game, but you know we can add non-Steam games to our Steam library.

Anyway, I just thought I'd give those observations. I would invite anyone else to give their observations as well.

I wouldn't call it our game of the year exactly but it's definitely our most discussed. Much of that was due to how newsworthy it was.

A lot of that negativity was warranted. But like everything on the internet, people took it waaaaaay too far.

I think the thing is that I didn't know anything about NMS until it came out. Then I realized we had an event going on about it and I read what was posted there and looked at some of the links that were posted as well. Then I decided to jump on the NMS bandwagon and join the event. I think many other people had heard about the game much earlier than I did and were actively following the news of it. So, their expectation of it was much higher than mine. Therefore, I was not as disappointed as they were. Granted, I still have in mind that one quote I read some that it was "as big as an ocean, but as deep as a puddle." I thought that analogy was fitting, until the Foundation update was released. Then, that "ocean" got much "deeper" and the game got much better. I still have things to do with it. I only stopped playing recently to get into Ark's holiday event. Since Ark has updated, I have more to do with it. Then, I might go back to NMS and continue what I was doing. The game can still get a bit dull after awhile, especially if you decide to try to locate all the creatures on a planet to get that discovery bonus. That part is still sometimes difficult. I'd like to see something, perhaps a scanner upgrade, that helps you locate the various creatures more easily.

It's nice to see NMS win something somewhere ;)

What scrypt said! Lol

For me, Ark is still my GotY. But, it's over a year old now. So, I'd like to nominate Doom for Triple A GotY. I only spent 45 hours playing, but I love it. Great soundtrack, great fun! I think for Indie GotY, I'd like to nominate No Man's Sky. The Foundation Update deserves Update of the Year, too. NMS took a beating this year and came back shining (w/ the Foundation Update).

However, Far Harbor (Fallout 4's DLC) deserves an Update of the Year nomination, too.

Awesome, those make sense to go on the list.

My noms:

Indie Games:

Punch Club
That Dragon Cancer
Stardew Valley
Hyperlight Drifter
Starbound
The Witness

Triple A

Mighty No. 9
Dishonored 2
Doom
Overwatch

Update of the Year

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim — Special Edition
Hearthstone - Whispers of the Old Gods
BioShock: The Collection

Mobile

Super Mario Run
Crypt of the Necrodancer Pocket

Just to clarify-- Update of the Year can include DLC correct? It may be prudent/helpful to call it Update/DLC of the Year.

How do Early Access games work for this? Ark was up for a nomination in 2015 but it hasn't even been released yet. At one point the CG awards were about our favorite things we played this year, which doesn't require release dates to be within the year. That said, that would allow Pong to get it.

At any rate, here are my nominations. I haven't played all of these but they all seem like they should get a nod in the nominations.

AAA: Doom, Skyrim SE, Fallout Shelter, Civ 6, Dishonored 2, Overwatch

Indie: No Man's Sky, Owlboy, Stardew Valley, The Witness, Firewatch

Update: No Man's Sky, Terraria, Fallout's Far Harbor

Mobile: Pokemon Go, Super Mario Run

Update can include DLC.

If Ark hasn't been released then let's not put it on the list. Sorry Greg, it will be on for next year.

Fallout Shelter was released in 2015, but it can be an update nom.

Fallout Shelter was released for PC in 2016! :D

Also Jon-- wasn't Mighty No. 9 indie? It was kickstarted. It looks like their publishers are just distribution partners and nothing else.

Ark is still in Early Access and I nominated it last year. It's still my game of the year! It was just released for the PS4, so technically it could perhaps come back this year, but since I did it last year, I'm moving on.

Anyway, I'm glad Jon and Travis have finally spoken! :)

Doom is an amazing game! I really enjoyed it! It made me feel like a bad ass. It gave me a unique feeling and I freaking' loved it! The soundtrack is amazing as well, which I listened to a few time on YouTube.

No Man's Sky took a lot of crap/negativity. One thing I recall was that NMS is about as wide as an ocean, but as deep as a puddle. The Foundation update made it even deeper. I still think it's a great game. There's still plenty for me to do!

Sorry, I've been a little distracted lately. I totally missed this post for nominations :(.

Awesome!

Good video! So, the original ID guys didn't work on the new Doom, or was it the two main ones that didn't? Yeah, it'd be nice to know what they think of it, but from how I feel about the game, I assume that it's something they could be proud of to carry on the name of the game.

Carmack Tweeted that he worked on the new Doom's snapmap as his last project at iD before he left. Hasn't talked about the game after that that I know of.

I read about that last night. I'm hoping for some co-op capability. I may try playing against some bots sometime.

Here's an update about today's update: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/doom-multiplayer-update-makes-weapon-balance-chang/1100-6440651/

I REALLY hope they made the rocket launcher feel less like throwing noodles at people.

I used it a bit, but not as much as in other similar games. That's kind of a surprise to me. It didn't seem as powerful. I want them to leave my Super Shotgun alone, that is my weapon of choice, I love it!

I mean in Multiplayer. The rocket launcher is fine in single player, mostly. I at least understand their balancing for it. But in multiplayer it seems super weak.

I heard they bumped it from a max of 50 to 60 damage so that's nice.

If I had known that all of the DLC was going to be for the multiplayer game, I wouldn't have bought the season pass. I may be incorrect and there may actually be something that's for the single player game that I've missed (other than Snap Map), so feel free to enlighten me if that's the case. Otherwise, while this game is fantastic, it is the only one with a season pass that I regret paying for. Maybe that will change and some day I'll get into the multiplayer game, but I pretty much don't have any interest in that.

> If I had known that all of the DLC was going to be for the multiplayer game, I wouldn't have bought the season pass. I may be incorrect and there may actually be something that's for the single player game that I've missed (other than Snap Map), so feel free to enlighten me if that's the case.

So far all of the paid DLC is multiplayer only and they've released a bunch of free stuff for single player and snapmap as well as multiplayer. In fact a pretty big free update today even:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOjbvzR7KkI

Multiplayer looks interesting now that it has bots, I kind of like to try it out with bots and if that's good move to playing with real people. But mostly I like playing shooters with friends online.

Yeah, that DLC is what sparked my comment. I was reading the game's News section to see what this new update was about and I read, "as for paid DLC, the final pack is launching on December 15, and will introduce three new multiplayer maps, as well as a playable Spectre Pinky demon."

I don't like to play shooters with friends, but that's something that could perhaps change. I like co-op play. I don't like competition, I never have. I don't have much self-confidence to go head-to-head against someone one and I usually don't find that style of game play to be very fun. Playing against bots might be more fun, especially in a co-op game.

On the other hand, I love playing Terraria with my fellow Cheerful Ghosts.

I agree that playing co-op is generally more fun that competitive play.

I read an article somewhere that noted that in this update of Doom they released the games DRM scheme. Not something they advertised but apparently the game was cracked some time ago and they removed it in this patch. No word from iD Software on why maybe after it won GOTY they figured it was time.

The prevailing theory is that Denuovo has a three-month guarantee and if your game gets cracked within that three-month period, you can get your money back BUT you have to remove it from your game.

This is supported with evidence. The games that haven't been cracked within three months haven't removed it, but many games that have been cracked within that three months DO remove it. And it seems if it gets cracked in the fourth month it doesn't have an effect on its eventual removal either.

It makes a lot of sense that they would have that kind of deal and would explain why Doom no longer has it.

I love how all the game mechanics incentivize getting into the action. Low on health? Get closer and smash a demon's head in! Low on ammo? Get close and cut a guy in half with the chainsaw!

One thing I generally dislike about cover shooters is the "hide to heal" mechanic. It just feels wrong for some reason to me.

I remember running a BBS. :)

I played Doom and Doom II. I don't think I played Doom III.

It's funny you mention the shotgun, because the Super Shotgun is my weapon of choice in the new game. I use it pretty much all the time. Yeah the BFG is awesome as are some of the other weapons, but I find myself sticking w/ the SS in most cases.

I'm not really into horror or shooter games. In fact, at first the new Doom didn't appeal to me. It looked like it had a bit too much blood and gore for my taste. Then, I watched some videos. I got this strong feeling that this was an awesome game and I should check it out. Luckily, I haven't been disappointed. I love it. Yeah, it is a bit bloody and such, but some how it doesn't bother me at all.

"Intense combat" is a great way to explain it. This game just seems to do everything extremely well. I'm playing it on Ultra settings and it's very sweet. It's quite flawless, except that it's crashed more than a few times. I also enjoy the story and the various secrets in each stage. I try to find them, but if I can't then I look it up on YouTube. I have no shame.

I went ahead and bought the Season Pass along with the game, before trying it. Some how I knew I'd enjoy it. That said, I'm interested to see what ID and Bethesda add to the game in the future.

I agree with Travis, I like how health and ammo replenishment takes place.

Something else that's cool is that there are upgrades you can get for your weapons and character. You can participate in Rune Trials, found in various levels, which are challenges that give great rewards when you accomplish them. The challenges aren't extremely difficult, but can still be challenging. Once you get a Rune, you can equip (up to 3) it. Then you can unlock more of it's potential by completing other challenges. So, the game is full of challenges, not just getting Steam Achievements.

Right now I think I'm at the end or very close to it. From what I saw on Steam, Campaign mode isn't very long, but you can extend it by searching for secrets and completing various challenges.

Oh a couple of things I forgot to mention. The soundtrack is awesome! I really love it. I'd like to get it if I can.

There are things that look and act like zombies, called "The Possessed". Don't waste your ammo on them. Use your pistol that has unlimited ammo or just go up to them and press "F" twice and you'll kill them.

One thing I don't like is how "F" is used to hit (melee) or do a Glory Kill and "G" is used for the chainsaw. I don't like it because I sometimes I hit the wrong key when trying to do a Glory Kill. I thought about switching it, but it's not too bad.

Earlier today, my game crashed for the 2nd and 3rd time. I had to turn off my PC to resume any functionality. I submitted 3 crash reports on Bethesda's support site. I also did some "Googling" and someone said turning V-Sync on helps. I also did a file verification on Steam, but nothing was wrong. I'm not sure if turning on V-Synch helped, because the game crashed a few more times after that. Although, those crashes just brought up the crash window and I didn't have to manually reboot my PC.

> One thing I generally dislike about cover shooters is the "hide to heal" mechanic. It just feels wrong for some reason to me.

I think it's a mechanic that works well in some games but I also don't mind health packs. I definitely feel that the "oh shit" moments are quicker in Doom because of it's health mechanics and I really like it for that.

> It's funny you mention the shotgun, because the Super Shotgun is my weapon of choice in the new game. I use it pretty much all the time. Yeah the BFG is awesome as are some of the other weapons, but I find myself sticking w/ the SS in most cases.

I haven't unlocked that stuff yet, but I am looking forward to it. The super shotgun in Doom 2 was incredible and I loved it but the first time I held the original Doom shotgun I was in love.

> I'm not really into horror or shooter games.

I am not into horror games at all. Well, truth be told I just haven't played many so it's possible i'd like them, I really don't know. I dug the horror aspect of Doom 3 though. Or maybe the "jump scares" and creepy parts. Loved that a lot it rode the line between serious and campy and I just eat that stuff up.

> I also enjoy the story and the various secrets in each stage. I try to find them, but if I can't then I look it up on YouTube. I have no shame.

Nah, we have shame we just value our time. Look, I have no problem wanting to find the secret level right away so I can jump in and play the original Doom levels in this engine. I know some people love spending hours pouring over that shit and unlocking everything. I really don't frankly I wish they'd just have them all unlocked I could play right now. But, you know, they didn't do that so I have to unlock them, which is fine. I just use a guide. I can live with myself for that.

> Oh a couple of things I forgot to mention. The soundtrack is awesome! I really love it. I'd like to get it if I can.

It's a very well made score and works well in the game to a point. With that, I don't find that the music amps me up as much as the gameplay and sound engineering. In fact, I bet just playing the game with music turned off might be better for me so I am going to try that. At times I dig the crazy metal electronic thing the game is doing and some times I really don't. Again, I find the score useful and well created I just don't always agree with the choices for each song and it rings hollow to me often.

Again, talent is there it's just not 100% my thing for each song. That said, I listen to some crazy hard hitting rock and metal so it's not like I want them to swap in Enya. That said, seriously though I bet she could make a dark song that would work well in the game as nutty as that may sound.

> There are things that look and act like zombies, called "The Possessed". Don't waste your ammo on them. Use your pistol that has unlimited ammo or just go up to them and press "F" twice and you'll kill them.

Yep. I love swinging to kill them. That said, I haven't found ammo to be a problem but maybe it's harder to come by in later levels?

> One thing I don't like is how "F" is used to hit (melee) or do a Glory Kill and "G" is used for the chainsaw. I don't like it because I sometimes I hit the wrong key when trying to do a Glory Kill. I thought about switching it, but it's not too bad.

Totally agree, super awkward. I am getting more used to it but it wasn't intuitive for me either.

I love the music. I found the full soundtrack on YouTube and have listened through it a couple of times. It makes me want to play.

Ammo really isn't a huge problem. I stuck mostly with that Super Shotgun and found plenty of ammo. Demons sometimes drop ammo, but you can always use the Chainsaw if you have enough gas.

Double jumping took some time for me to get used it. It felt odd at first, but I finally mastered it.

Anyway, I'm finished with the campaign. I haven't completed every achievement, but I got all the secrets. I finished all the Rune Trials and even the challenges to upgrade them. I did the same for weapons, upgraded all of them and completed their related Mastery challenges. I must admit, the old maps are hard! You're very limited when it comes to weapon and gear, plus you don't have Runes and everything else that really helps. I finally entered God mode and went through them. I think what makes them different is that they are in closed environments, hallways and such, while the new maps are wide open. I like the new stuff. This has been a really fun game to play.

> Ammo really isn't a huge problem.

Agreed. At least, hasn't been a problem yet. I welcome the impending ammo-pocalypse.

> Anyway, I'm finished with the campaign. I haven't completed every achievement, but I got all the secrets.

Congratulations on the accomplishment. I haven't been playing it due to the hot weather here. I need to knuckle down and kill some demons though. I miss it. :(

> I finally entered God mode and went through them.

I hadn't heard of this mode. Does it unlock when you beat the game? TELL ME MORE OF THIS GOD YOU SPEAK OF!

Type in "god" after hitting the tilde key (in game). Do it again to disable it. It's a console command.

Thanks. I'll try that. Too bad it's not IDDQD or IDKFA.

Those work, too, but I just typed "god" in the console, but here are other console commands.

iddqd - Toggles God-mode (still damageable by hazards). Causes Health to drain slowly at all times on Nightmare Difficulty.
idkfa - Gives the Doom Marine fully upgraded Health, Armor, and Ammo Capacity, as well as all unlockable Weapons, Weapon Mods (all fully upgraded), Suit Mods, and all available Suit Mod slots.
idfa - Gives player fully upgraded Armor, Health, and Ammo Capacity.
idka - Gives player all Weapon Mods, Weapons, and Weapon Mods are all fully upgraded.
ida - Gives the Doom Marine all Suit Mods and all Suit Mod slots.
iddt - Reveal all Secrets, items, and any unexplored areas of the map.
idgk - Toggle Glory Kills only. Makes all enemies immune to firearms and normal weapons, requiring player to kill them with Glory Kill animations.

I love that they are bringing back the old cheats. I just remembered those two from the original game and apparently they still work.

I think it's cool what they've named some of the achievements. One is called "IPXSETUP.EXE" which you get by playing a multiplayer game. Another is called "Shareware" which you get by downloading and playing some Snap Maps.

Hahaha IPX/SPX, goodbye Netware!

I totally remember ipxsetup.exe back in the day. Wow. I kinda miss the novelty of playing online but... I really don't miss the headaches.

I absolutely love that the Doom mod/wad community is still going. This just shows how timeless that game is. I need to fire it up again some time.

Oh that reminds me! I found one of the secrets in the new Doom which is one of the old maps. Once you discover a small area of it, you can apparently play it in another mode. I haven't tried it out yet, I just know I found one of the many secrets. :)

Yep, I believe you can unlock much of Doom and Doom 2 in the new game. I unlocked a Doom 2 level and was pretty stoked to try it.... until it kicked my ass. But it was still fun, I just don't remember it being that hard.

I think I'm going to jump on the bandwagon to Hell.....LOL

The devil is impressed Greg!

Well I'm impressed and that's why. At first I wasn't at all interested, I thought it looked like a bit too much gore for my taste. But, I watched one of my favorite YouTubers play and it looks awesome. There's a very interesting impression I'm getting from what I've seen and thinking of that translating into gameplay is exciting.

Yeah, the gameplay is really exciting and... There is a lot of gore. TBH I was really surprised with the gore in Diablo 3 but it's not a huge deal now. I guess it's just another day desensitized to all good human emotions

Joking aside, let me know what you think of the game. It has the biggest download to date but looks great.

Yeah the DVD install helped my bandwidth cap a little but it was still a ton of data. Similarly to Fallout 4, it went really slowly from the DVD for some reason, but I let it because of the bandwidth cap my ISP has.

It's a really solid game. Doom 3 was good, I loved it even when people were complaining about it, but it didn't feel like Doom, it was survival horror for the most part, and it worked well. This is just straight up mayhem.

So I usually don't watch long video reviews of a game, especially if I've already played it. But this one was really good. I think they kinda liked the game. :D

Seriously though, this game is like what shooters would be like today if cover shooters and military shooters never took over. It takes some cues from Wolfenstein: The New Order, I think. I'm not saying that cover and military shooters are bad, I'm just saying this is better!

I think New Order set the stage for what iD games can be. Amazing shooter, challenging gameplay and a good story. Doom focuses more on it being a sort of anti-story while still having a driving and natural narrative.

Oh Hell yeah! This game is sweet! I thought I'd suck at it, so I started off playing on the lowest difficulty level, but it didn't take me very long to decide to increase the difficult back to normal. I think we have our 2016 Game of the Year. Hahaha

It's really good.

I don't know if this is awesome or terrible or somehow both.

Yes :)

I blame you for the fact that I've had "DOOMY DOOMY DOOMY DOOM IT UP" in my head for days, btw.

DOOM IT UP DOOM IT UP
Lol

https://youtu.be/L7NIQN9NwAM

Oh Invader Zim. It's been a while.

Ha!

I watched someone on YouTube play a bit of Doom and I thought the music was really cool! It definitely reminded me of the original Doom games, but also Duke Nukem 3D.

Thanks for sharing a cool video!

I just posted a DOOM music video (not from the makers of DOOM, more of a tribute song) to the Forum page. Maybe I should have just put the link here. But I figure this comment is directing people to the Forum post, if they're interested :)

That's nuts since the campaign is supposed to take about 13 hours to complete from what they've said. Not only did this guy faceroll through the whole thing in a really short time, he did it on Ultra Nightmare. Respect.