Man, that was really, really cool. I didn't think of it much like a "joke" (he goes into *why* it's a joke at the beginning, but that still didn't make it "funny" for me. Very, very cool though), but was super interesting. I recommend watching the whole thing. Thanks for sharing this, Travis!
My SNES looks better.
Lol ;)
Yeah this definitely isn't a thing you do with the intention of using it to play SNES games. Just a cool project to see what you can do. I was surprised to see that it was even possible.
And I agree Adam, I didn't feel like it was a joke exactly. At least, I didn't get it if it was.
I saw this video make the rounds online and I almost turned it off after starting to watch it until I realized what it was. The guy is pretty smart and it's a really cool project. Nintendo enhanced the SNES power by adding the Super FX chip and this is essentially the same kind of idea just MUCH more advanced.
“Sources” claim that this is an online survival game.
https://kotaku.com/sources-fallout-76-is-an-online-survival-rpg-1826425333
So Greg, your Ark love might translate well to this. I’ll probably end up buying it because it’s Fallout and I love Fallout but I don’t really love the genre so... hopefully they can do something interesting with this to make me interested. But if I’m not that’s fine. It’s cool that they’re branching out to other genres but that’s kind of a wall that stops my hype train.
That’s assuming these sources are accurate (they seem to be).
Some lore: Vault 76 is a control vault in Virginia that wasn’t an experiment like the other vaults. It was scheduled to open 20 years after the bombs dropped, but based on the trailer it’s 5 years past that “reclamation day” and you appear to be the only one in the vault.
Ah well see the reason I love Ark so much isn't because it's an online survival game, but because it's a crafting, taming creatures, survival game. I did the online stuff, some time after I played single player, but I ended up getting back into single player and I'm not sure if I'd do the online thing again. That said, if this is a strictly online game with other people, I probably won't get into it. I'm not strictly against playing games online w/ others, but I have a strong preference to play online with friends only (ie, you guys w/ Terraria). I did enjoy my online time w/ Ark and I got some new friends and had some fun, but there was a lot of babysitting (of creatures, especially newborns) and when it came to PVP and time for war, I left.
What I'm wondering is why it's not called Fallout 5. Perhaps that's because it's an online survival. So, maybe the next single player version of the game will be Fallout 5, granted I'd prefer that instead of online survival.
Yeah they wouldn’t call it Fallout 5 if it’s not the core game sequel. Kinda like New Vegas a few years back but even more different than that.
Ah, ok. I didn't think of it like that. I'm so used to the Final Fantasy series and how almost always those numbers are not related.
If it's a survival game where you can run your own servers that might be fun. Reason why those are fun is that you can build up a server ALA Terraria with rules and stuff and kick off dipshits. I know a lot of the new survival games do that and I think Ark does too.
Agreed 100% Jon. That would drive it home for me.
Right. It's hard to play those games and build up a small hut while some "doin' it for the LOLs" guy snorting cheeto dust wrecks your house and kills you. I mean, that's not how I would define fun anyway. 
Yup yup! You can have your own server w/ Ark. PixArk is the last game I ran as a server, only because some features are still missing in the single player game. I like to run TShock for Terraria, too, when I get to a point where I want to change the time (for fishing quests) and use warps. But yeah, those kind of people you mention, Jon, suck. I believe they're called "griefers" and "trolls." There's also those kids (and perhaps adults) w/ the "yo mama" jokes/insults and calling everyone some other bad things (I don't feel like repeating those).
Yeah, a Cheerful Ghost Fallout 76 server sounds great!
Check out this video. As long as there's a single player mode, I'll be happy to get it. https://youtu.be/8RgbeA4H0FY
That video makes me want to check out The Forest actually! And yeah there are a few ways they could do Fallout 76 right.
Did you see this from the MS press conference? https://youtu.be/toS9OiU-y0k Wow 4 times bigger than Fallout 4?! My only gripe (regarding what we do officially know) is the setting. I live near WV and I really don't care to explore that area in a video game. Sure, it can be nice and quaint, but I'm not really down for that whole country scene. Still, it won't matter, I'll still most likely buy this game. Apparently XBox users can pre-order on the 15th. I don't know if I'll preorder, I think I'd like to see when it's going to be released. What do you guys think?
We will find out more at tonight’s Bethesda conference. I’m skipping Westworld for it
But no matter where it’s set it’s still post apocalyptic so I mean it’s not much different from West Virginia today amirite? Got ‘em!
I jest, West Virginia is beautiful and surprisingly progressive in the populous areas.
Watching the pre show now. Can’t wait to find out what 76 is! Bethesda is playing it so well because we don’t really know. It’s such great marketing.
People are thinking there is gonna be a new Elder Scrolls but at best that’s coming next year.
Yeah, @Travis, WV is beautiful. Surprisingly progressive? That's new to me, but you said populous areas, which makes some sense. But yeah, you're right post-apocalyptic, won't really matter. It'll be cool, I'm sure, I'm just not a fan of the country, I'm tired of it really.
@Jon I don't believe we'll see another Elder Scrolls game for a while. I'd say maybe, just maybe, in about 5 or 10 years. The last I saw, they said that the technology isn't up to par with what they want to do. Who knows what that is, but it's definitely going to take some time.
So, I've been watching some videos of people playing Fallout 76 and it looks more interesting than I originally thought. The people I've watched have rarely encountered other people, except for their friends of course. There's been little to no PVP in the videos I've seen. You can't even PVP until you're level 5 and apparently you won't take much damage at first, unless you fight back, then it's on, otherwise you're pretty much ok. There are quests that are easier to do with someone else and connecting with a friend seems to be kind of easy. I feel like the more of these videos I watch, the more tempted I am to get it.
I'd also like to note that it looks a lot like Fallout 4, except more familiar to me as I'm about 150 away from Charleston, WV. The WV border is only about a half hour away.
Have any of you watched your favorite YouTubers play this game? Has your mind changed as to whether or not you'll get into it?
If I didn't have Ark to keep me occupied thanks to the new DLC coming out tomorrow, I think I'd most likely buy 76. Even still, I may get it when I'm done with Ark's new DLC.
I've been reading a lot about it on /r/fallout and the big issue seems to be that the revenge system to prevent trolling encourages it.
Basically, player A kills player B, player B can then take revenge and get tons of loot.
The issue is that, player C can stash all their stuff and take terrible gear and then go run in front of player D's shots, or annoy player D by standing in doorways to trap them, or any other number of things so that player D kills player C. Then, player C goes and gets better gear and easily gets revenge on player D, and gets all the gear player D is carrying.
There's still tweaking to do, but if they get it right I'm still open to buying it.
Wow that seems like a lot of could happen whereas in the videos I've been watching nothing like that has happened. I did see in one video that showed a wanted person on the map though, so someone was killing players.
I've also seen some of them server hopping. So, if you get on a serve and someone is doing something unfriendly, you can jump on to a different server. It's interesting. Mostly server hopping was used to grab Power Armor.
One problem I saw was that there seems to be no push to talk button. Instead it's open mic and you'll hear anyone on the server. At least, that's what it seems happened with one of my favorite YouTubers. Maybe open mic is more localized for the area or maybe it's on the whole map. Others that I watched didn't seem to have this problem, so I don't know what they did differently. I may figure it out eventually, because I think I've pretty much decided to get it. I just don't know if I want to pre-order it. Let me know if you (anyone here for that matter) decide to get it. It'd be cool to play with friends and I have a good headset to use.
Yeah there’s no push to talk which is a complaint I’ve read.
I am like 50/50 on whether I’m getting it but I won’t at launch because I’ll have a ton of RDR2 left.
Lucky! I don't have a console for RDR2 and I don't want one. I want it to come out on PC lol. I think I will get Fallout 76 though, eventually, maybe close to launch.
> and I don't want one
I dunno man, the PS4 has so many amazing games now that are either exclusive to it, or exclusive to consoles.
I do bet that whenever the PS5 and Xbox ... Scarlet? Is that what they're calling it? Anyway, when the next gen comes out I bet Rockstar releases it for those and PC, the way they did RDR2
Yeah, but I heard that RDR2 performed better on the XBox One. I'm not sure I have money for a new console. I'd like to have a Switch, but can't afford one. Yeah I hope it comes to PC, but who knows. They didn't release the first one. I have it for PS3 and would love to have it on Steam.
Regarding Fallout 76, I'm feeling more confident about it and seriously thinking about it. If you get it, I hope you get it for PC so we can play together. :) Otherwise I might tough it out on my own. We'll see, I don't know what I'm going to do.
Although I did buy a New 2DSXL recently along with Pokemon Ultra Moon, but that was somewhat with birthday money I had leftover. I'd probably have to save a bit for a new console, but then there's not a lot of console games I'm aware of that I'd want. Right now Vinny uses the PS3 for gaming, I use it for streaming (watching YouTube and Hulu). My hope with a new console is that streaming would be much better, because at times I can't connect to Hulu and YouTube has trouble loading videos (sometimes).
It does perform a little better on the Xbox One but it’s not a huge jump and the PS4 exclusives like God of War and Spider-Man far make up for some minor deficiencies in one game :)
There's also Kingdom Hearts and FFVII: Remake coming.
Yep! This generation is full of great stuff.
I decided to go ahead and pre-order Fallout 76. Apparently you can pre-load one of the console versions now (I think XBox) and PC and the other console pre-loads will be available later.
I was foolish to think that I'd hold out. I won't be playing it soon (RDR2... won't... let... me... go) but I will have it as soon as my Amazon shipment comes in.
> Amazon shipment comes in.
What version did you buy?
I got the special edition but not the mega special edition with the power armor helmet. This one:
https://www.amazon.com/Fallout-76-Tricentennial-PC/dp/B07DN8YWLW/ref=sr_1_3_twi_gam_4?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1542170827&sr=1-3&keywords=fallout+76
And yes Greg I got it on PC!
I'd prefer PS4 (until I get a 4k HDR monitor) but anyone I know who I'd want to play with would get it on PC probably so it made sense.
Yay! My name is GregoPeck on there. Unfortunately, it seems voice chat isn't working. I saw some people talking by an icon above their head, but couldn't hear them. Later I ran into a group that I could hear. I'm also sure no one could hear me. So, it seems a bit messed up at the moment.
I've been playing since yesterday, it actually went live before midnight.
Pretty good review on RPS
https://youtu.be/OxH1QHmcyv4
How is it so far for yo Greg?
Well, it performed really shitty at first. The game auto set my settings to Ultra and it took forever for shit to load in, so I changed it to High and it's performing better, although still sometimes things don't load in well. It'd be nice if voice chat worked, although some people may be relieved from the lack of open mic. Otherwise, it's cool and there's plenty to do. I think we're still playing with the beta version as we have not received a major update. There are definitely bugs that I hope get resolved soon.
I've read that it's buggy as hell right now for everyone. Some missions unplayable, audio not working properly so someone on the other end of the map can hear your gunshots, lots of things. I heard there was a massive day-one update too so that's odd as well.
I think the consoles got a day-one patch, but PC didn't. Some have said we got a small patch, but that's it. I'm looking forward to seeing Bethesda take care of bugs.
I think I fixed my voice chat issue. I think it was a Windows 10 privacy setting that was causing me a problem. Eventually, I found someone that could hear me and I could hear her.
Let me know what your name is when you get in so I can send you a friend request. Someone sent me one, but I have no idea who. The game does list people I've recently seen, but I didn't see where exactly that friend request came from. For us, it'll be easy once I know what your in-game name is.
I sent you a friend request from panickedthumb so I’m probably not the one you didn’t recognize.
First impressions after a couple hours: this doesn’t have a narrative like the other Fallout games, and we knew that going in, but it definitely feels different and strange because of that. But Bethesda has always had a knack for environmental storytelling and it seems like they ramped it up for this game. Discovering the little stories left around every nook and cranny has been great.
The online aspect is interesting so far. I haven’t even connected a headset, I figured I’d just use text chat but hang on... they don’t have text chat. That’s an odd omission but they are “looking into” adding it. Push to talk is coming soon apparently. But I managed to communicate with rudimentary gestures with a couple players and we were working on the same missions so we kinda watched each other’s backs without any formal plan. The emergent gameplay was great here. I ran into one joker (I hesitate to say troll) who was blasting “Never Gonna Give You Up” over his headset and following people around “dancing” with emotes. It was way more funny than annoying.
The survival aspect is pretty well done. Imagine a Rust kind of system but way less strict. It’s more refined than the survival mode they added to Fallout 4 and a could imagine them learning some things for their next single player games.
Overall it’s not bad. It’ll take some time to really judge it but so far I’m not really put off by anything, which is unexpected for an online-only title.
Oh and performance-wise, it’s noticeably prettier than Fallout 4 but runs better on my system. I have a buttery 60fps even in really asset-heavy areas. But I noticed that no matter how I set my video settings, the robot NPCs still stutter. I assume that’s because their movements are being calculated server-side so they’re the same for everyone but I don’t notice it with enemies or other players so that’s an odd thing worthy of mention.
Thanks for that write up Travis. I think you should turn some of it, or all of it, into a first impressions post. Mostly because I don't want it to be buried here and also because you're the first person i've heard say good things about Fallout 76.
Ok well I didn't see the friend request anywhere nor did I see your name. I thought that's what you might use, I'll try to get you added/a request sent. It is like Fallout 4, except it's a survival game, meaning you have to eat and drink. The bad part of this is pretty much everything will give you rads, even after cooking/boiling it. There are also plenty of bugs. Right now you can't complete the Bureau of Tourism quest because you're supposed to repair something and the game doesn't give you a prompt to repair that device.
I thought voice chat wasn't working, but it does. I think it might have been due to Window 10's privacy settings, I had to change it to allow all programs access to my mic. Finally, I found a couple of girls that could hear me. I also later found some other guys that I could talk to, too.
The game does look good and it's not bad, but there are definitely things that need to be fixed. And yet we still have no patch. :(
Feel free to write up something, Travis, I support what Jon's said to you. It's complicated, but I'm not sure I'm in a great position to write a great review, maybe I just need some more time with it.
Ok, I did a friend search for your name, found you and now it says "friend added." It's shown me that you're offline. I don't think the Bethesda launcher has a friends list, like Steam, so I'd know when you're on and playing. Hopefully, I'll get on sometime when you're on and I can find you and help you out. I feel kinda deep in the game, there are still some things I need to do, but that all can take a backseat. :)
You say “and yet we have no patch” but we kinda do. It was a day one patch, but it looks like the PC version is actually at a higher point release than consoles.
It’s a patch, it just doesn’t fix everything, and there’s still a lot to fix.
Right. I guess I feel like I've run into things that clearly require patching, but haven't been patched yet. Also, the lack of a push-to-talk button....well my headset has a push-to-mute button, so yeah lol. I noticed on the "auto" voice chat setting, that you won't hear people unless they're close, which seems to be the same as the "area" setting. If you can hear them, you can probably see them. One girl could hear me, but I couldn't hear her and I think her teammate said it was because her voice chat was set to "team." So, I think that setting mutes you to everyone except your team.
I think auto will set you to team chat if you’re on a team, or area if not.
And yeah I plan on writing something up when I have a few more hours in. It’s still too early even for a first impressions post
I could write something...for starters, I wasn't even convinced about buying it until I watched YouTubers play the beta. Even then I was still a bit hesitant, too afraid of the PVP stuff, but it's not as bad as I thought it'd be. I don't often see other players, although I can see them on my map.
Cool! I didn't know it was on Steam, too. Thanks for the info.
Yep. Think most game companies realize that releasing things everywhere is a really good idea.
Whoa! Another Switch game that's also coming to PC! I had no idea it was coming out on PC. Thanks for the info!
That game looks beautiful, doesn't it?!
Yeah, the style is growing on me. That said, I think the original pixel style of Mega Man 2 should be in a museum.
Looks like Mega Man 11 is pretty good!
https://kotaku.com/mega-man-11-is-exactly-what-i-hoped-it-would-be-1826794039
As with much, i'm going to say that if you want to partake in the comments here to expect spoilers.
Yep, thanks Jon. I updated the post with that warning as well.
And as an aside, sorry for my sick-sounding self. I must have gotten whatever Tim had. From across the country.
So Solo met my expectations, which is: it is fun, but nothing mind blowing. To me, Han and Chewie are the least interesting characters in the movie. All the other characters were great and saved the movie for me.
I really hope Lucasfilm rethinks their strategy of basing these "Star Wars Story" movies on existing characters. I think it makes it harder to care for the characters when you know where they end up. If they use existing characters and make the movies prequels, they better have a very strong character arc (which Solo did not have for Han). Otherwise I would like to see the characters in a non-prequel setting. For example: for the Boba Fett movie, set it after Return of the Jedi. Maybe have it set up like an Unforgiven movie. I think that would be cool.
As far as more Star Wars releases per year, it doesn't sound like they are going to do that after Solo under-performed.
As for the two Star Wars Story movies, Rogue One was the better film IMHO.
They’d have to retcon Boba dying in RotJ for that to work. But I could get behind someone finding his armor near the sarlaac pit and taking over his name and contributing his legacy. That would be awesome.
*continuing
We don't know that Boba died in RotJ. He went into the Sarlacc for sure, but it takes "over a thousand years" for a Sarlacc to digest someone.
Unless he managed to take off his armor while inside the sarlaac and escape, he’s dead. Jaws eventually dug into the pit and killed the sarlaac and took a lot of stuff from its stomach, including that armor.
That’s according to Aftermath, and LucasFilm’s new canon policy is there’s only one canon, no levels of canon, and every story decision is approved based on whether it violates anything previously done.
So they have some wiggle room for Boba surviving (like a suuuuuper low chance) but he wouldn’t have the armor. Or there would need to be some crazy exposition for it to work.
Ah, so it was covered in a novel? I am failing at being a star wars nerd. :)
Hahaha nah, it’s hard to keep up with all of it. My wife has done a better job of it than I have.
But yeah it’s been covered just by the armor moving around a bit. But I mean technically there’s still no body. Probably LucasFilm being coy with us.
Travis, will you write up a Travis' Notes version of Star Wars so we have all the info? :)
I already did: https://starwars.wikia.com
;)
> I really hope Lucasfilm rethinks their strategy of basing these "Star Wars Story" movies on existing characters. I think it makes it harder to care for the characters when you know where they end up. If they use existing characters and make the movies prequels, they better have a very strong character arc (which Solo did not have for Han).
I'm not sure I disagree with anything you said. With that, my guess is that they are doing these (and i've talked about this before in comments) prequel films while they rev up the new films POST Episode 9. They have Rian Johnson and the Thrones brothers (whatever their names are) for those movies but while they are getting those going and the TV shows and other new movies they want to mine stuff and the past seems like a temporarally safe choice.
> As far as more Star Wars releases per year, it doesn't sound like they are going to do that after Solo under-performed.
Marvel did it. I bet Lucasfilm can get the formula right too.
> As for the two Star Wars Story movies, Rogue One was the better film IMHO.
The more I think about where Solo lands the more i'm not sure. I know it's better than most of the prequels but i'm not sure about where it sits with Rogue One? I hope to see it again before part 2.
Also wanted to link to a YouTube video I watched recently called "What We Want From a Star Wars Movie?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeUGLUYYYNQ It's a great breakdown and covers why some people might not have appreciated aspects of The Last Jedi.
I'm really not sure where I'd put Solo in terms of better or worse than Rogue One. Rogue One was SO good in my opinion but I do get the issues people had with it.
We all know we really want a Jar Jar Binks movie.
I'd honestly go opening night if there was one.
“Mesa want your money: A Jar Jar Binks Story”
I would totally go to that and try to avoid all spoilers. I would want to experience the train wreck
I've heard some fun speculation that the Solo/Boba Fett/Obi Wan movies could be a quasi-Darth Maul/Crimson Dawn trilogy. From what I've read and seen, Darth Maul and Obi Wan have a pretty extensive history in the animated shows, so an Obi Wan movie with Darth Maul in it might have to be a retelling of the animated story (so it's probably not likely). It would also be fun for Han and Chewie to be minor characters in the Boba Fett movie.
(I've still not seen Solo, but I've seen a lot of reactions and breakdowns. And I heard a podcast on it too 
Here's a really in-depth, fun breakdown of all the references and details in Solo: https://youtu.be/fKLHggsywpo )
Interesting chat with Ron Howard about Maul here: http://www.slashfilm.com/solo-reveal-explained/
I meant to post that here last night Will. I love how he just didn't know who was going to fill that role, but Jonathan Kasdan wrote it so that it would lean toward Maul.
There's something that Jon and I talked about in the episode that I've been thinking about. Jon thought it was out of character for Han to give Enfys the loot instead of taking it himself. I mostly agreed but upon further thought, I think it makes sense. And my wife thought this was too obvious to even talk about it so... maybe we're slow :D
So in A New Hope, Han is only in it for the money, until he shows up to help in the crucial moment of the Death Star battle to help.
In Empire, we aren't entirely sure what's happened in the intervening years but Han is about to leave to save his own ass until he finds out Luke is in trouble and he risks his life to save Luke.
Han isn't a rogue scoundrel who only looks out for himself, even in the beginning of when we knew him. He's a good person who had terrible experiences and has made himself INTO a rogue scoundrel to get by. But when it comes down to it he does what's right.
Yeah as I was thinking about the movie more the night I came back from the theater the more it made sense that they might make this The Maul Trilogy. Should be fun!
I just saw the movie so now I can partake in spoiler comments! Wow there's a lot to read about here. It took me a while, but I finally recognized Emilia Clarke, "Daenerys!" Wow that was difficult to place, since she's a brunette in this movie. I also thought that L3 was played by Gwendoline Christie, Captain Phasma, but I was wrong.
I thought it was a cool movie, some of it was beautiful (like when they escaped the maelstrom. I noticed the lack of a Star Wars theme music in the beginning, which didn't occur until Hans and Chewie were in the Falcon.
Hans, the German smuggler.
;)
I also recognized Ron Howard's brother, so wasn't surprised to see Ron's name in the credits. I also saw the guy from the movie Willow, I believe. Oh and the main villain, he was Vision in the Marvel movies!
I also thought it was cool that Han knew Chewie's language. That was interesting. I mean he never talked to Chewie in his native language before, so that was really cool! Seeing Darth Maul surprised me, the ending twist was a surprise for me, but I guess I'm just gullible and twists in movies actually surprise me.
Crap, I said "Hans" my bad! I made that mistake before.
Seeing Han speak Wookie was horrible! I have to disagree with you on that one Greg!
I would be somewhere in the middle of cool and horrible on this one. I kinda always thought of Shyriiwook as something that non-Wookiees couldn't speak, just like how humans can't purr. We can kinda approximate it but we don't have the right throat structure for it. Apparently, though, according to a canon reference book it's possible, just really hard on the throat if you aren't a Wookiee.
It was still cheesy to see it though.
So, I'm getting the impression that I liked it more than you guys. That doesn't quite surprise me as I clearly like the prequels more than you guys. Is this correct? Did you guys not like it very much?
If you've heard the episode, Jon and I really liked it, and my opinion has stayed pretty consistent since things have gelled in my mind over the last week. My wife and I were planning on a second watch this past Monday but we both got some kind of virus that's worse than a cold. Bubonic chest cold? Yeah Bubonic chest cold.
I've never seen a movie where every single thing worked for me though, and maybe only one or two where nothing worked for me. And I have a spectrum of gripes. Nothing in Solo was really problematic for me, just minor nits. Hearing Shyriiwook spoken by a human was one of those nits but it did get a chuckle out of me if I'm honest. It just seemed out of place.
But yeah I plan on seeing it again at least once before it gets out of theaters and I can't wait for the home release.
I’m sick right now too and my voice is pretty trashed.
I liked Solo quite a bit. The Han speaking Wookie was a fun cheese moment and I’m glad it’s there. It reminded me of Luke drinking milk straight from the sea cow. That said, I think I liked the sea cow scene more it was just so much fun.
#notmyluke
Solo was fun and I enjoyed it despite my problems with it. It was probably up there with the prequels for me, which I like.
Will, what does your ranking list look like? We talked about that a bit in the last episode comments
I haven’t thought of rank in a long time. This will take some thought.
It seems I got the wrong impression, you guys do like it, even if you have some issues w/ it. @Will_Ball, that's cool that you like the prequels, too. I think maybe I'm not too picky, but I liked seeing how Darth Vader came to be.
I like many things about the prequels. The only one that I would say I struggle to like is AotC. But there’s a lot of crap in there.
Greg I realized that you weren’t in the discussion on the last episode either, care to share your list?
I posted my (updated) list, along with Katie’s and my friend Hari’s (because he has a different take on it than I might, having grown up with the prequels), here:
https://cheerfulghost.com/Travis/posts/3712/cheerful-ghost-radio-episode-24-the-killing-snoke
And of course listen for Jon’s and Tim’s.
I still don’t know where I’d put Solo.
I don't really care to make a list. LOL
Aw. Everyone needs a Star Wars List.
My Star Wars list:
Star Wars
Everything else
😄
Wills list:
1. Ewoks an Endor Adventure
2. Star Wars: The Clone Wars
3. The Holiday Special
4. Solo: A Star Wars Story
Ok, I still think my first list is the most accurate one, but here is where I stand as of right now:
6
5
4
7
8
Rogue One
Solo
3
1
2
Just heard a discussion about a different movie (Infinity War) and one of the guys made the point that *all* movies have plot holes/nits. It's bad if it takes you out of the movie, but if it's something you realize days later, then it's not that big of a deal.
That could probably be applied to a lot of the Solo discussion. Sounds like people mostly enjoyed the movie, but there were minor issues (but like Travis says, you can say that about every movie), but nothing bad enough to take you out of the movie :)
(Also, I listened to the podcast halfway through, and listened to others, then originally commented here, then eventually listened to the rest of the podcast and realized the Maul Trilogy was discussed by Jon and Travis lol. I don't think this is the only place I've heard about it, but now at least realize I wasn't contributing anything new to the discussion about that lol)
> Just heard a discussion about a different movie (Infinity War) and one of the guys made the point that *all* movies have plot holes/nits. It's bad if it takes you out of the movie, but if it's something you realize days later, then it's not that big of a deal.
That's true. I think though, movie pendantry is becoming a hot take arms race. Like I love talking about it to have a fun nerd moment with friends but I think it's a becoming new wave cynicism that's taking over fandom and becoming really toxic. What amount of nits makes a movie bad? I don't really know, but I know when people can't seem to let things go. Like I've seen lots of movies I didn't like and I can't remember them at the moment because I stopped caring a long time ago. Ok I thought of a bad movie I didn't enjoy, Spiceworld! Can't remember anything about it, but I remember not watching all of it and not much else.
> (Also, I listened to the podcast halfway through, and listened to others, then originally commented here, then eventually listened to the rest of the podcast and realized the Maul Trilogy was discussed by Jon and Travis lol. I don't think this is the only place I've heard about it, but now at least realize I wasn't contributing anything new to the discussion about that lol)
Yeah, i'm sure lots of people had that idea too. Thing is when it turns out to not be true, i'm not going to create a Twitter account attacking whatever director that didn't reward my fandom in the way I wanted them to. PLACATE ME STAR WARS OR I'LL NEVER STOP HATE TWEETEREREASDFASDFASDFASDFASDF
