Hahaha yeah. I’ve never paid for a game on Epic and I’ve got quite a few games now. I know I’m supposed to hate them but I don’t.

> Trojan horse. Get in for free and then release the kraken. You are doomed.

:godmode:

It’s somewhat subjective comparing two games but in terms of Zelda games less so maybe. The gameplay differences in Worlds and the Awakening remake are pretty stark in the Worlds is quite a bit faster and in the Awakening remake Link snaps to one of eight directions and in general feels a bit slower.

That said, I’ve played both and just played Worlds to get the feel back and they are more similar than different which is a good thing. Zelda timeline wise Awakening happens right after Link to the Past and Worlds after that so I think it makes sense that they are styled together some if contain differences enough to give them a unique voice.

Sorry the phone tapping made some of that hard to read. I still think the games feel similar but, it’s not a huge deal that everyone agrees with that.

Thanks for that video Will.

PS the Gameboy games could run at 59 hz.

I have the game cart which does not need an install to play. Some games have a hefty update and they mostly run off the internal SD card but Link's Awakening runs entirely on the game cart. For now anyway.

> I think Steam has made me quite used to digital versions of games, which I think are great, because hard copies are easy to lose or damage. But, if the place hosting the game stops operating, then you essentially lose the game, or your ability to re-install it.

Yep, that's why I buy physical if I can. In the case of the Wii it's now the difference between being able to play a game and not. I bought the physical version of Tetris on Wii and can still play it whereas the download version goes with your system.

https://mobile.twitter.com/GifZelda/status/1176262465526665217

> Think about it this way-- warrior primal scream can give you a 3x attack, OR the Disappear ability gives you (functionally) a 5x attack, but the Rogue attack strength will generally be lower.

It's actually a 4x attack because the first one just sets up the skill and burns the turn. Frankly I love this kind of game tedium

> I know the last time I killed the wyvern, I had plenty of gold in the bank, which unfortunately went unused and thus lost.

We have plans for that gold in other things we plan to add to the game but won't be coming right away. Longer term we will add some fun stuff to grind a lot of gold for.

> The number of times you can use a spell vs the number of fights you have seems a little unbalanced.

I don't quite understand what you mean, sorry.

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> A mage should use their spells first and foremost while a weapon should be secondary.

I totally agree with you here.

> I feel like magic is secondary. Maybe I have the wrong expectations here based on other RPGs.

Expectations are fine, I appreciate you mentioning it.

Two things come to mind when I think about Tale of the White Wyvern and classes and it's simplicity and game balance. No one class should feel markedly overpowered but they all should feel powerful. Frankly I think Mage is the most powerful class in the game right now, and we might fix that but I loathe nerfs.

For such a simple game, you can take many paths in Tale of the White Wyvern on how you play the game. Much of this is how you'd play an RPG like Diablo in that you pick your class and then as you level you can't pick a different path, it's fairly permanent. We allow dual classing too and depending on when you dual class you could have dramatically less skill points that someone else by the time you fight the Wyvern. When you balance a fight like the Wyvern you want it to feel hard but also accessable so a reasonable player that made good choices would kill it. We're not the kind of game where I want to dramatically penalize someone for making the wrong choices. I'd rather create a game where people can make choices and see how it lands and you might have a less fun time with some of your choices but it's not too far to the Wyvern to reset and start over and make better choices.

So to keep the game balanced at the core if you take Mage, Rogue and Warrior skills off the table we have everyone level up and gain the same amount of stats and have all weapons, armor and hats(to come on Thursday) be the same. This makes the game a bit vanilla but means that what choices we do allow you effect how easy or hard it is to kill monsters in the forest, PvP or the Wyvern.

Since I don't want one class to be the best class at killing the Wyvern I limit skills so it's easier to balance the game. Kind of like in Diablo III where all your Magic power is derived from your weapon.

Also. It might be worth considering that we change the class name to something that's more like a fighter with magical abilities. That would being it more in line with what the class is, which is kind of a hybrid.

I want to build what you are talking about Will, i'm just wondering if we do how that might effect the simplicity of the game? It would be fun to work on for sure.

> I must have played Mage horribly then, as so far I found it to be the weakest. :P

White is a 10x attack. Mage has the worst random skill gain (+3 hp) but with white, wowee, get ready for the hurt Wyvern!

> I like this. Going into it, I expected to find a traditional Mage and was disappointed when I found a class similar to the Warrior with some magic sprinkled in. The class felt more like how I would play a Paladin than a Mage.

Cool. Travis and I will think more about this and see what we can cook up.

It really does. 🤣

Just pushed the update out a bit early (enjoy)!

One other change we made was balance the Mage's White attack from a 10x -> 7x.

It was entirely too overpowered and now it feels good but not insane.

If it’s any consolation I’m a Mage about to take on the Wyvern. This is one of the reasons why I loathe nerfs. There is never a good time.

I love Will Ball for loving the hats and the new Rogue ability.

Hahaha prob commented in the wrong post.

You can play Wyvern in 4K and if your monitor is 120hz it will take advantage of that as well.

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