If you are interested in picking up a unique Indie couch co-op game where you can spend time killing your friends, you need to check out Crawl. Not only does the game sport a really unique pixel art look, it also comes with one of the coolest launch trailers in recent memory.
Crawl is available right now on Steam & The Humble Store for Linux, Mac and PC.
https://www.humblebundle.com/store http://store.steampowered.com/app/293780
If you are interested in picking up a unique Indie couch co-op game where you can spend time killing your friends, you need to check out Crawl. Not only does the game sport a really unique pixel art look, it also comes with one of the coolest launch trailers in recent memory.
Crawl is available right now on Steam & The Humble Store for Linux, Mac and PC.
I will buy this when it gets internet multiplayer. I always say that more games should support local multiplayer, but it's a little disappointing that it ONLY supports local multiplayer.
jdodson Admin Post Author
wrote on 08/11/2014 at 10:04pm
"What about Online Multiplayer? It’s a possibility, but if you can’t get around a PC with some friends we recommend waiting until we have more news."
In this episode of the Cheerful Ghost Roundtable we talk about the latest video game craze, Video Game Streaming. We talk about Let's Plays, E-Sports streaming & the recent Twitch.tv acquisition by Google for a cool Billion. This episode features Portland Indie Game Squad's (PIGSquad) Will Lewis as he live streams the show on the new PIGSquad Twitch.tv channel.
What do you think about video game streaming and Google's recent acquisition of Twitch.tv?
In this episode of the Cheerful Ghost Roundtable we talk about the latest video game craze, Video Game Streaming. We talk about Let's Plays, E-Sports streaming & the recent Twitch.tv acquisition by Google for a cool Billion. This episode features Portland Indie Game Squad's (PIGSquad) Will Lewis as he live streams the show on the new PIGSquad Twitch.tv channel.
One thing we didn't touch on (or I totally wasn't paying attention) is the advent of Twitch Plays, and what that means for both games and the streaming of them. It's a brilliant use of the technology, though I don't know how practical it is. With services like Twitch, the primary pull, outside of watching a stream, is being able to interact with a streamer, as well as the rest of the audience. In Twitch Plays, it seems that there is less room to interact with each other, as everyone is focused on getting the character in play to do their bidding.
Now, it seems that Google is nipping any future lawsuits in the bud; it's a move to CYA. This is only affecting archived streams, for the moment, but I'm sure that Google is hard at work to figure a way to mute live streams, as well.
Via Joystiq, it is pointed out that the muting of in-game musics is a "mistake". "We have zero intention of flagging original in-game music." Shear says.
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A few months ago I dropped the release trailer for the local Portland developer ClutchPlay's game, Skullduggery. Skullduggery is a mobile game where you play a tax collector for the underworld. This new gameplay footage trailer shows off how the basic game functions as well as more advanced moves like head-shots. The game is uniquely disturbing as you use your brain like a rubber band to rocket the skull around the screen to collect coins and accomplish goals.
Skullduggery was one of the PAX 10 selected for this years PAX Prime, which is pretty awesome so if you talk to anyone from ClutchPlay make sure to congratulate them.
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A few months ago I dropped the release trailer for the local Portland developer ClutchPlay's game, Skullduggery. Skullduggery is a mobile game where you play a tax collector for the underworld. This new gameplay footage trailer shows off how the basic game functions as well as more advanced moves like head-shots. The game is uniquely disturbing as you use your brain like a rubber band to rocket the skull around the screen to collect coins and accomplish goals.
Skullduggery was one of the PAX 10 selected for this years PAX Prime, which is pretty awesome so if you talk to anyone from ClutchPlay make sure to congratulate them.
"The Expendables 3 comes to Broforce in a ridiculous, free expansion pack."
As if Broforce wasn't already a great game, here comes the Expendabros, a free standalone download. This version is themed for the new Expendables 3 film and they got Dolph Lundgren to cameo in the reveal trailer! It's cool to see Indie games moving into integrating movie IP which has typically only been taken on by triple A studios.
"The Expendabros was created by Broforce developer Free Lives and will be available for download until December 31, 2014."
As if Broforce wasn't already a great game, here comes the Expendabros, a free standalone download. This version is themed for the new Expendables 3 film and they got Dolph Lundgren to cameo in the reveal trailer! It's cool to see Indie games moving into integrating movie IP which has typically only been taken on by triple A studios.
"The Expendabros was created by Broforce developer Free Lives and will be available for download until December 31, 2014."
Ah, never mind. It looks like it's an expansion pack in name only. It seems you can just download it and play it whether you have Broforce or not.
jdodson Admin Post Author
wrote on 08/06/2014 at 12:39am
Yep, it's a totally free version of Broforce themed to the release of the Expendables 3. I just downloaded it and played it, it's great. It also acts like a totally standalone demo for Broforce. It contains about 8 levels and takes about an hour or less to beat.
jdodson Admin Post Author
wrote on 08/06/2014 at 12:40am
My guess is it's a promotion for the Expendables 3, so if you haven't downloaded it by then my guess is new people won't be able to get it? It's not entirely clear right now.
It seems the apple in this teaser that was released recently is Apple Inc. as the news is out today that Bioshock is coming to iOS. Get it, BiOShock? Hahahahaha I'm a riot.
The original Bioshock finds a new home on newer iPads and iPhones. Touch controls replace the familiar keyboard and mouse or controller schemes of old. Destructoid found them capable until you get into combat situations, where the weakness of the touch controls shows itself. It does have compatibility with the various controllers released for iOS devices, so if you have one of those, you're all set.
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It seems the apple in this teaser that was released recently is Apple Inc. as the news is out today that Bioshock is coming to iOS. Get it, BiOShock? Hahahahaha I'm a riot.
The original Bioshock finds a new home on newer iPads and iPhones. Touch controls replace the familiar keyboard and mouse or controller schemes of old. Destructoid found them capable until you get into combat situations, where the weakness of the touch controls shows itself. It does have compatibility with the various controllers released for iOS devices, so if you have one of those, you're all set.
Interesting. I might look at getting a bluetooth iOS controller as a few games now support it that I own. One of the benefits is that good ones should work on multiple smartphones so there is no iOS vendor lock-in.
I wonder how much the final cost will be?
Travis Admin Post Author
wrote on 08/05/2014 at 01:49am
I was "interneting on the websites" when I stumbled upon a post where someone noted the full Far Cry 4 experience is $90. The base game minus the DLC content is $60, but if you want the full Far Cry 2 package it's $90.
Certainly Ubisoft isn't the only company to do this, BioShock Infinite came with a Season Pass as well as Skyrim, Fallout 3 and other games. That said, it was a bit sobering to see all the cost up front available on day one.
I have no doubt that the cost to make a Triple A game is huge and any chance to get players to pay a bit more if they want makes financial sense but.... $90? That said, if someone drops 60 hours into the game that comes out to about a... Read All
I was "interneting on the websites" when I stumbled upon a post where someone noted the full Far Cry 4 experience is $90. The base game minus the DLC content is $60, but if you want the full Far Cry 2 package it's $90.
Certainly Ubisoft isn't the only company to do this, BioShock Infinite came with a Season Pass as well as Skyrim, Fallout 3 and other games. That said, it was a bit sobering to see all the cost up front available on day one.
I have no doubt that the cost to make a Triple A game is huge and any chance to get players to pay a bit more if they want makes financial sense but.... $90? That said, if someone drops 60 hours into the game that comes out to about a dollar fifty per hour, which isn't a bad value.
What do you think, is the full Triple A game experience worth $90 or something different?
Apparently it is worth $90, because that's what people have been paying for years for this kind of content. There are a few that I think are worth that, for my library. It all depends on what you're into. I'm about to shell that out for Destiny, but I wouldn't have done it for a game like Watch Dogs. Time will tell if I get my moneys worth out of it (if they Alpha and Beta are any indication, I believe I will). No Man's Sky is another that I'd consider spending an exorbitant amount of money on.
Season passes for $30 aren't unheard of. I don't think "the full Triple A game experience" is what you're getting. You're getting the game plus all the DLC they release for it. You can get a full (and hopefully awesome) game for the regular $60.
Oh and Skyrim and the Fallout games didn't have season passes. Though it would have made sense for the Fallout games.
jdodson Admin Post Author
wrote on 08/02/2014 at 03:03am
scrypt: Totally, people seem to love buying games like this. I don't mind buying each Diablo 3 or Starcraft 2 expansion. Love those games.
Travis: Season passes are not new for sure, but it just kind of hit me that the full meal deal is $90.
As to the full experience, just check out the language that Ubisoft uses from the Steam capture. "It is designed for any fans and new comers who want the most complete game experience on Far Cry 4." Some words are moved around, but it's not too far off.
Totally right on Skyrim and Fallout, but by the time you bought all the DLC, might as well have got a Season Pass. I think in the end the Season Pass is a better deal, but it still pushes the full game experience to $100.
That's marketing-speak. They're just trying to get you to pony up the cash. Which many people will. I may get Assassin's Creed Unity that way. I got AC4 that way (same price, I think, $90) and put close to $60 in the base game. The DLC felt tacked on, and didn't connect to the main game significantly. It certainly wasn't part of the main game "experience."
Some games are obviously vessels to get more money out of you down the line, but Ubisoft has a good track record here I think. Fallout 3 got well over 100 hours out of me before the first DLC dropped.
I guess it depends entirely on what the "full game experience" means. If it means you aren't going to be fulfilled without DLC, then it's a problem. If it's obviously cut content that they decided to release later just to tap your wallet a second time, it's literally Hitler.
But if it's a great game with more stuff being developed and released later to add to what you have, it's awesome!
Either way could be thought of as a complete game experience. I guess the best question to ask is whether the $60 is fulfilling without anything else. DLC has found a pretty nice spot after a ton of bad press on the worst offenders. Anyone remember horse armor?
That one paragraph was sloppily written. I didn't mean to suggest that Fallout 3 and Ubisoft were at all related, just throwing Fallout 3 out as another example.
Considering that i paid $60 for Borderlands 2 when it came out, then dumped another $45 or 50 for season pass two months later, i can definitely see myself spending $90 upfront to know that i'm getting what i will eventually want.
I compare it to people spending the extra money on limited edition or "prestige edition" kinds of releases for games. Example, Dead Space 2 collectors edition was i believe $80 with all its goodies, and the COD Ghosts Prestige edition was $199. So if a person is willing to shell out that much money for the game with some chintzy goodies then i'd say an extra forty bucks or so for hours of extra content is worth it.
Depends on how much you like the game i suppose, but a game like Far Cry is the kind of game that you want the "full experience" for.
jdodson Admin Post Author
wrote on 08/03/2014 at 09:37pm
I think paying $90 for the full game and it's DLC is different than a Collectors Edition with physical goods included.
With a game+DLC we are talking all digital goods. With a Collectors Edition you get a physical box, art book, score and more. I think the value, generally, for a Collectors Edition is higher.
That said, Far Cry 3 and all the DLC is an amazing game and I imagine Far Cry 4 will be no different if not better. The question/point for me isn't that some people won't find value in a $90 digital only game.
Again, if it's $90 for Diablo 3 Reaper Of Souls+Score+Mousepad+Art Book+Bluray Making of+Game then yes. If it's $90 for a digital game+DLC.... Then I think it could be, but I doubt the game value would hold up to a less expensive game.
All that said, the game will drop in price over the subsequent year(s) and a Steam Sale will drop it even more. I guess for huge Far Cry fans that love every second of that franchise, $90 really isn't that big of a deal.
And you are right, getting the full experience for Far Cry is what most people want as more of the base game is a totally awesome thing because the game is so much fun.
@Zach_Foster"Considering that i paid $60 for Borderlands 2 when it came out, then dumped another $45 or 50 for season pass two months later, i can definitely see myself spending $90 upfront to know that i'm getting what i will eventually want."
This is exactly it. It's a predetermined purchase. I knew that when Bioshock Infinite came out, I was going to buy the story based DLC. It's just a matter of when I'm spending the money, now or later. As you say, @jdodson, As long as you have an idea of what you will be getting, this is a good deal. However, if all I received from this were variations on the Clash in the Clouds DLC, that had nothing to do with the core story, I would have felt disappointed and deceived, thus making the purchase a waste of money. In that case, a Collector's Edition would be preferable, since I know, more or less, exactly what I'm getting with my money. A replica statue of Songbird, soundtrack, artwork, etc. have an immediate value, and arguably add just as much to the experience, by extending your enjoyment of the game into the living world. While the digital content will lose monetary value almost immediately, real world objects retain, and sometimes increase in value, based on quality and rarity.
The whole usage of "full experience" or "complete experience" is as @Travis states, a marketing ploy. It's another part of the experience, but by implying a finite perimeter to that experience and calling it "full" or "complete" gives the impression that "there is nothing more than this." This isn't just all of The Next Generation episodes, it's TNG in full 16:9 ratio, with a Riker/Troy sex tape, the entire TNG soundtrack played by Patrick Stewart on a Ressikan flute, Geordi crossing universes to meet Scott Summers and talking visor technology, and, finally, all the information you have always wanted on Guinan and the El Aurian race, and what powers they could possibly have over the Q (*whew...). It's like a Director's Cut or high level Kickstarter campaign. I imagine a custodian of these projects pulling all the files and drawings and sounds into a giant Santa's sack of gifts that you would never otherwise see, but now you can. For $90, or whatever the cost is (likely over $1000 for that TNG bullshit, and I would PAY IT! Everyone would pay for that!).
Having the total price be upfront, rather than trickled over time, is a more honest approach. I don't think the reality of it will, or does change anything, except that companies are becoming bold enough to lay it out there, day one. I doubt most people are like us, though, and they are perfectly happy with the core game. By the time the DLC comes out anyway, most people are usually on to the next.
jdodson Admin Post Author
wrote on 08/04/2014 at 12:42am
One kind of neat aspect of the base game + Season Pass DLC is that I picked up BioShock Infinite on a Steam Sale for $9. I started playing the game, loved the hell out of it and noticed the Season Pass DLC was like $20 for some expansions and some in game extras. Since the game was so great, I pulled the trigger and was not disappointed.
So, it might allow a few more bucks to go to the developers a bit later in the cycle where I might not have otherwise.
> Again, if it's $90 for Diablo 3 Reaper Of Souls+Score+Mousepad+Art Book+Bluray Making of+Game then yes. If it's $90 for a digital game+DLC.... Then I think it could be, but I doubt the game value would hold up to a less expensive game.
I still think you're thinking about this the wrong way. The game is $60. You pay extra to get stuff that will be sold down the line. Diablo III was $60 and the one expansion so far was $40. That's $100. If they'd said at the outset, the digital deluxe edition is $90 and say something about "the complete Diablo III experience" it would be no different. You're still getting the same stuff you're probably going to buy for less money, and you can choose to buy that DLC later if you want and just pay $60 now, and it's no different from any other AAA release in the past few years.
To put it another way, if it just had the game up for $60 and the season pass for $30, with no option to buy them together for the "complete" edition, the only difference would be how many clicks you had to make to buy them. The base game only has to live up to other base games.
Ah, I totally forgot what I was going to say to your point, @scrypt.
"By the time the DLC comes out anyway, most people are usually on to the next."
I think this is the key here. It's good business for them, because they get all that money. Like you said, by the time the DLC comes out, many gamers will have moved on. I have had that trouble myself. If I'm already in the mindset for one game I can't easily drop that and go into another game. This just shifts the purchase so people can easily buy everything up front. I think that's really the only thing that's different here.
AND SERIOUSLY, WHY DID THEY NEVER TELL US WHAT POWER GUINAN'S PEOPLE HAD OVER THE Q CONTINUUM?!
Off topic, but I both love and hate that we know so little about the El Aurians. Guinan is one of my all-time favorite Sci-Fi characters because of it, and honestly the reason I like Generations as much as I do (i.e. learning more about her, and meeting another El Aurian). I know most hated it because of the treatment that was given to Kirk, and I agree completely, but I really like the ideas surrounding the rest of the film.
Can't believe I forgot to mention Sony in all of this. Have you seen what they are doing with Playstation Now? The pricing structure there is unbelievable. Granted, it's in beta (open beta...), but upwards of $50 for a 90 day rental? Insane.
jdodson Admin Post Author
wrote on 08/04/2014 at 06:45pm
Yes I did and it's not something I am interested in.
I am unsure why the pricing is so nutty but I can't see that bringing actual competition to the regular model of buying a game anytime soon. Maybe if renting the games was super cheap, but that's not even close.
That's just nutty. I guess it's cheaper than .99 a day, which is what I used to rent games for, but these days that just doesn't work. If you're going to pay that much I think people will prefer to just buy the game. They're competing with the Gamestops of the world-- if people buy used games and trade them back in, it's functionally the same thing and much cheaper than Sony's pricing.
Except that at the lowest rental tier, the cost is about $3 for 4 hours. That's the shortest rental time. 4 hours. I wish it was $.99 a day, or even a couple dollars for a day. That would make so much more sense.
jdodson Admin Post Author
wrote on 08/05/2014 at 04:48am
Oh and if you want to talk more about Generations, drop a post in the Forums. I would love to continue the discussion :D
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YouTuber @Shippiddge has posted 3 episodes in a new YouTube series called "Starter Squad" all about Pokemon. That said, the episodes are hilarious and bend the story in a way you wouldn't expect. So many quotable lines from the opening episodes, my personal favorite was in episode three.
Bulbasaur: "I'm into it."
Squirtle: "Don't care, you have no choice."
So if you love Pokemon and you've always wanted to see Squirtle as a sociopath, check out all three episodes.
The Cheerful Ghost Roundtable films next week and the topic will be "The Rise of Video Game Streaming." While we film the episode, Will Lewis from PIGSquad will be live streaming the episode on his Twitch.tv channel as we live stream the episode on Google Hangout.
That said, I had the idea to start a new thread a week before the show to start the discussion. What do you think of video game Streaming, Twitch.tv and Let's Plays? What do you think about the news that Google just bought Twitch.tv for a billion dollars? What kinds of game streaming do you watch?
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The Cheerful Ghost Roundtable films next week and the topic will be "The Rise of Video Game Streaming." While we film the episode, Will Lewis from PIGSquad will be live streaming the episode on his Twitch.tv channel as we live stream the episode on Google Hangout.
That said, I had the idea to start a new thread a week before the show to start the discussion. What do you think of video game Streaming, Twitch.tv and Let's Plays? What do you think about the news that Google just bought Twitch.tv for a billion dollars? What kinds of game streaming do you watch?
I want to take everyones comments to possibly use as a springboard for the roundtable. Fear not, if we use something you said we will credit you by name! (YAY)
I have no interest in just watching people play. There seems to be this big industry these days where you can watch someone play any game on the planet live. If there's a hook to it, like speedrunning Mario 64 or something awesome like Twitch Plays Pokemon, I love it. But I really don't care that you're streaming Diablo 3, I'm playing it over here, which is way more fun that watching you, no matter how awesome you are at it.
jdodson Admin Post Author
wrote on 08/01/2014 at 03:12am
I really enjoyed watching the recent DOTA 2 International. I had a co-worker over and we both watched a bit of the League of Legends tournament that was fun. I had little understanding of what was happening, but it was a fun experience.
That's definitely one of those awesome moments. A tournament, especially a major one, is cause to watch. I watched the Starcraft tournaments on ESPN 3 back in the day and loved it.
Sometimes I'll watch if it's a game I haven't played before, to see what it's about. Tournaments are fun, especially the League of Legend games, since I know a bit more about the game and the scene. There are also times when I'll have a stream - someone that I'm following just because I like...whatever: their perspective, communication, etc - playing in the background as I draw or design. I've always liked having music, or some environmental noise, on while I work.
There are games that I can't watch because it's annoying not being able to grab the controls. It can also be annoying watching someone play a game that you've already "mastered", but then with Twitch, you can actually chime in and say "Hey, look behind that building" or "Just do this instead of what you're doing, it's easier." Streamers will sometimes poll the chat for what to do, or what to play next. I don't know. I find the whole thing pretty fascinating.
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I really loved this Plantera fan art by Reddit user VladBacescu. Plantera is a pretty menacing boss for anyone and taking it on in this version of the world.... Uh. Yeah.
Jack and Rich Evans from RedLetterMedia have a new video up that asks the question "Is Sonic, The Most Overrated Game Ever?" While those are fighting words for some, they bring up good points in the video.
After I picked up my Wii and the luster of Wii Sports wore off I started collecting used games for the Gamecube(The Wii can play Gamecube games, YAY!). One game I picked up was the Sonic Mega Collection. The Sonic Mega Collection was fun in that I was able to play all the classic Sonic games but it wasn't fun enough for me to spend much time playing them. Somehow, the fun, just never arrived for me with Sonic.
What do you think, is Sonic awesome or something else?
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Jack and Rich Evans from RedLetterMedia have a new video up that asks the question "Is Sonic, The Most Overrated Game Ever?" While those are fighting words for some, they bring up good points in the video.
After I picked up my Wii and the luster of Wii Sports wore off I started collecting used games for the Gamecube(The Wii can play Gamecube games, YAY!). One game I picked up was the Sonic Mega Collection. The Sonic Mega Collection was fun in that I was able to play all the classic Sonic games but it wasn't fun enough for me to spend much time playing them. Somehow, the fun, just never arrived for me with Sonic.
What do you think, is Sonic awesome or something else?
Oh right and Sonic apparently would have eaten his own poop if the game were more realistic... So yeah, watch the video below for more that and more scientifically accurate Hedgehog facts with music.
The video is a little long for me right now, but I can say with no hesitation that the Genesis-era Sonic games are some of my favorites of all time. The first few forays into 3D were solid, but they got boring fast. Kinda like Mario Sunshine. The mechanics all work well but there's not much fun.
I never got into Sonic games, mostly because I always felt like I wasn't any good at them, or I was playing them completely wrong. A lot of the same frustration that Jack and Rich express in the video, actually. They weren't hard games, like Mega Man was hard. Sonic games just felt really unfairly torturous.
jdodson Admin Post Author
wrote on 07/31/2014 at 07:29pm
I agree scrypt, besides the first level I didn't have much luck with them.
Oh yeah, I never played the first one, but I beat 2, 3, and Sonic and Knuckles, including the various ways you could combine them (Sonic 2 + Knuckles, Sonic 3 + Knuckles. That whole mechanic was awesome). I beat the first episode of Sonic 4 that was released recently, but it just feels mushy, I didn't care for it much. I *think* I beat Sonic Heroes on PS2.
The only recent Sonic game I remember playing was Sonic Unleashed on the 360. I didn't mind the werehog stuff as much as a lot of people apparently did, even though it was completely out of place. The daytime stages were near perfect, however, and if they could do (or have done?) something solely like this in an arcade style game, I'd play that.
The Sega Genesis being my very first console, I had a lot of time into Sonic games at a very very young age. I'll admit that to this day i've never beat a Sonic game, but they will always hold a strong nostalgic value to me because they're some of the first games i had ever played. Other than that though, I would say that Sonic eventually turned into more of a fanfare device for Sega. They were trying to achieve what Nintendo had done with Mario, and it just didn't really work out for them.
The only post-Genesis Sonic game I can remember playing was Shadow the Hedgehog, which i distinctly remember as being a classic sonic running-style game in a semi nicely done 3D third person, but it was also a shooter which I thought was very odd considering the point of the original sonic games was to save animals, not kill people.
I did enjoy the old television series also, if any of you guys remember that.
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I will buy this when it gets internet multiplayer. I always say that more games should support local multiplayer, but it's a little disappointing that it ONLY supports local multiplayer.
"What about Online Multiplayer? It’s a possibility, but if you can’t get around a PC with some friends we recommend waiting until we have more news."
http://www.powerhoof.com/crawl/
I wasn't sure they had Internet play on the map at all, I figured this would be a couch co-op game only. Awesome.
Yeah I saw that. Couch multiplayer is definitely awesome but I don't think I'll ever have four people here who care about it enough to play it.