Full Frontal Assault is a tower defense game and little more. You protect your base by building towers, laying mines and manually attacking the incoming alien hordes. To power your base, you attack nodes and link them a la Unreal Tournament. The only time the game bears any resemblance to a past R&C title is when you're off collecting bolts to upgrade or build new...
Full Frontal Assault is a tower defense game and little more. You protect your base by building towers, laying mines and manually attacking the incoming alien hordes. To power your base, you attack nodes and link them a la Unreal Tournament. The only time the game bears any resemblance to a past R&C title is when you're off collecting bolts to upgrade or build new...
jdodson: What is the last game you picked up? What do you think about it?
Tungsten: Money has been tight, so it's been a while since I picked up a AAA title. Instead, I've been delving into F2P. I just started on Planetside2, and I'm really enjoying it. Other... Read All It has been way too long since the last community interview with @panickedthumb so apologies to all about that. The lull till the next community interview won't be as long. For all of you that didn't know, Tungsten did the current incarnation of the Cheerful Ghost logo for the site from its very early form as well as being a site moderator. I really enjoyed tossing around game related questions with him quite a bit.
jdodson: What is the last game you picked up? What do you think about it?
Tungsten: Money has been tight, so it's been a while since I picked up a AAA title. Instead, I've been delving into F2P. I just started on Planetside2, and I'm really enjoying it. Other than that, I'm still active in Diablo III. I don't have tons of time to play games on a normal night, so a couple Act3 farming runs usually fits in nicely. I know others have been disappointed with it, but it is almost everything that I wanted, and my over 200 hours of playtime will attest to that.
jdodson: I am planning on downloading Planetside 2 soon, any tips for starting out? How does it compare to other recently released MMO F2P shooters like Tribes Ascend?
Tungsten: Planetside is big and fairly well designed. It is a persistent world FPS, which is kind of interesting: there is no match or round, it just keeps going. They've introduced a bunch of mechanics that naturally break up the fighting into battles, but these battles can last minutes, hours, or even days. The fighting is more traditional than Tribes Ascent: it feels almost like a Call of Duty, but perhaps a bit slower.
I like it. It feels... epic. A lot of things that have to be scripted into other games occur naturally: air-strikes, reinforcements, new enemies joining a battle... it feels good.
It is very intimidating to start, though. I highly recommend watching the tutorial videos and then finding a small, well-run squad to fight with (the squads are temporary and can be automatically joined with the [insert] key.) A couple hours in and you'll be complaining about noobs like a pro.
jdodson: Occasionally I get a game that is a total let down. Did you get one recently that comes to mind?
Tungsten: Total let down... none since Aqua Teen Hunger Force Zombie Ninja Pro-Am (I mean the title would make you think it was awesome, right? It wasn't).
Well, I'll probably get flack for it, but I was a little let down by Skyrim. I am in no way saying that it was a bad game or that I didn't enjoy it (shoot, I'm at least 200 hours into that one as well); it just didn't live up to my expectations. It became a bit more of a sandbox for me when I started to plugin mods, which redeemed it in a lot of ways.
jdodson: I am gonna come out and support you here. I like Skyrim, but I didn't love it. I am still not more than maybe 15 hours into the game. Not sure why. I imagine I will come back and play it more at some point, I think having so many games attributed to this.
What mods do you recommend people checkout to give Skyrim a bit of a boost?
Tungsten: Ultimate followers Overhaul (UFO) - lead as many people as you like. While it does have more than a few bugs, it changes the game in a nice way.
Invested Magic - Changes how a few spells work in a logical way. If you do lots of magic, try this one out.
Unlimited Conjuration - Want a zombie army? Well, here's your chance.
Cloaks - Um... cloaks...
Whistle - Summons your horse.
Oh, and if your computer can handle it, throw in an ENB. It makes the game look **very nice**.
jdodson: If you have Netflix, I wonder what movie you recommend watching from Instant Streaming?
Tungsten: It's not a movie, but recently my wife and I have been going through the show "Better Off Ted." There are only about 20 episodes, but they're hilarious. Highly recommended. Apart from that, I love the new Sherlock (not the movies, but the BBC series), the Walking Dead, Dr. Who. Movie wise, I just watched Raising Arizona again the other day. It was all down hill from there for Nicholas Cage.
jdodson: Steam is coming to Linux. Big Picture Mode has been released. Portal 2 on PC allows split screen mode. What does this mean to you? What do you think this means for gaming over the next few years?
Tungsten: Convergence? Maybe? I don't know. The problem is that the mobile market is pushing the console market to be faster and more reactive. This has lead to some great things like the marketplace and DLC. Unfortunately, as is starting to happen in the mobile market, games are going to stop running on everything out there. Here is what I see: in a few years time, everything will just be the same thing. With the advent of iOS and tablets, computers are starting to look more console like. Consoles on the other hand are adding browsers, media streaming, DLC, indie games... it's all starting to get indistinguishable. Money always wins, so my guess is that they won't ever truly unify because it justifies more sales if they don't. I'll tell you though, I don't see myself buying a new console any time soon. I think I'd rather invest that money in something I have a bit more control over.
jdodson: I agree with you on wanting more control. With the push to app stores do you think the gaming landscape is getting more open?
Tungsten: It is very nice that I can, right now, open up Steam or Live, and buy games that some guy down the street made. Look at Minecraft or (insert other example, I can't think of one right now), but with the new level of accessibility we can get innovation and ideas to an industry that puts out a new roster for Madden every year and calls it a game.
jdodson: What is the current/last gen console you use or like the most? XBox 360? PS3?
Tungsten: I really enjoyed my XBOX 360. Live works like a charm. Even coming back to PC, where online multi-player really started, seemed slow and clunky in comparison. It amazes me when huge titles don't come with voice support, while any little XBOX game can pull it off with no trouble at all. Game wise, it all got muddled after a while. That's what drew me in to the PC again: I have more titles to choose from, usually for cheaper, and they look better. Look at something like SpaceChem, my favorite game of (last year? two years ago?): that sort of thing, at least at this time, is only happening on PC.
jdodson: From all the rumblings you have heard about the next gen consoles what is something you heard you don't like? Something you did like?
Tungsten: Well, the Wii-U holds no interest for me whatsoever. I wasn't too happy with what they did with Kinect on the 360, so I have doubts about that future. (Seriously, you have something that can track objects in 3D and the best you can do is simple gestures that would have been easier with a button? I really just wanted an FPS where I could lean and the screen would lean with me. Is that too much to ask?). Sony has a lot to prove after losing ground to Microsoft, so I would expect them to come out with something solid.
jdodson: I agree with you now, the Wii U doesn't interest me either. I like the HD graphics, but to be fair, I didn't mind the graphics of the Wii. They were a bit fuzzy, but I didn't come to the Wii for that kind of game. You seem to have skipped the PS3 I wonder why that was?
Tungsten: I never put more than 2 hours into one, so, in my own personal gaming landscape, it doesn't exist. I really would love to play few games on it some time: Uncharted, Dust 514, Metal Gear. I've just never had the chance.
jdodson: 3 new Hobbit Movies. Hot or not? I don't know why but I have to write "3 MORE HOBBIT MOVIES" in all caps.
Tungsten: 2 months ago I would have said 'not', but after a few trailers I think that I could use three such movies. Oddly enough, here's what I'm most excited about: singing dwarves. I know it's odd, but the singing was such a big part of the books and it all disappeared from the first set of movies. If I only get one song per movie, I think I'll be satisfied.
jdodson: If Peter Jackson can tap more into that element of the books I will be happy too. The Hobbit is my most beloved book of all time so when they said they would split it in three my already hesitant mind went to a worse place. I had some time to sort of take it all in and have come out on a positive note. I really enjoyed looking forward to a new Lord of the Rings movie in December and for the next three years we will have Hobbits again each year. I can get excited about that even if it isn't everything I want.
With Jackson's push into the realm of 48 frames per second... well do you think this will bring us to a new "HD" movie territory or make it look too foreign?
Tungsten: I think that I will personally pretend to like it for about a year before finally giving up and admitting that it makes me want to vomit.
jdodson: I recently got Minecraft and all I seem to do is farm wheat and breed Cows and Sheep. Well that and chop down trees. I just built a tree house. I am not sure this is a question.
Tungsten: Here is what I do: wander until I find something cool. Build a portal to the nether. Build a portal out of the nether. End up somewhere else and I have no clue where. Rinse, repeat.
jdodson: I should try this. I haven't built a nether portal yet, I should look up the recipe.
Tungsten: 10 blocks obsidian arranged in a doorway pattern. Then you light the bottom two block on fire with a flint.
jdodson: Cheerful Ghost has around for almost a year now. What would you want to see it do if you could have it do something different?
Tungsten: Merge a few things. Don't have a separate "games" section. Instead, just have the "write about" list become the "games list" and have write about become the top option. What I love about the site, is that you really start to get to know the people who post, even if it is just through a few words at a time. I would love another way to connect with them, perhaps through personal pages (like games pages, but for each member instead. Shoot that's starting to sound like face-book. Don't do that, they'll sue). I do think that the site needs to be more... broad... not in its content but in its structure. If that ever happens, I would love the ability to follow people's comments, connect in games, and even chat with them.
jdodson: Max Payne 3 is on sale during Steams Autumn Sale for $15. Is this a must buy or is it fine I wait for it to be in a larger sale pack during a future sale?
Tungsten: I don't know... It's really good, but I don't think that waiting 2 months is going to hurt it much. I guess it depends when you're going to have the free time, because it really is a game that should have at least a couple hours to a play session so that you can keep the story intact.
No matter what though, get it. Other than Red-Dead Revolver, it is the best Rockstar game.
jdodson: Read-Dead Revolver? I just checked that game only has a PS2 and XBox port, without a PC port these kinds of games get a pretty limited life. What made Read-Dead Revolver so awesome to you?
Tungsten: Typo: Red Dead Redemption.
jdodson: What video game character from your childhood do you think is the coolest?
Tungsten: Bowie from Shining Force 2 was a badass, and I've always had a soft spot in my heart for Luigi from Super Mario Brothers 2. Oh, and I can't leave out Cecil and Kain from FFII (or FFIV if you're a hipster). I even suggested Cecil as a name for our first child if it was a boy. (It wasn't.)
jdodson: Recently I had to switch my brain to call Final Fantasy 2 IV and 3 VI. I bow to the hipsters I am tired of getting corrected :D
Tungsten: All I know is that when I want to my friends house and he was playing THE BEST GAME EVER it said Final Fantasy 3 on the box. If you grew up playing an import copy, then call it 6, more power to you.
jdodson: Super Nintendo or Sega Genesis?
Tungsten: Super Nintendo. Final Fantasy > Phantasy Star. Mario > Sonic. Metroid > everything else. (Honorable mention: Herzog Zwei on the Genesis was one of the great games of my child-hood.)
jdodson: You have played a lot of Diablo 3. From your perspective now, what keeps you interested in the game? What could they add or change to make the game better in your opinion?
Tungsten: I love the grind. I don't know why. It almost feels like a job some times, and I think I shouldn't like that... but I do. It's also been fun to watch it change as the patches come out, almost like Minecraft was in its beta days. I think it's the promise of that Legendary Drop worth 500,000,000 gold that brings me back, almost like gambling where I get to crush demons along the way.
jdodson: What's the most epic drop you got?
Tungsten: Ya, about that... I never got anything all that good. I don't know why, but the Diablo god's never deigned to deliver unto me anything worth more than 1-mil or so gold, and in today's market, that isn't anything.
jdodson: Indiana Jones 4. He rode a fridge. Shia Labeouf played Tarzan with monkeys. Aliens. Again, I am not sure this is a question.
Tungsten: You know what... never saw it. I blame this whole thing on George Lucas (and you Mr. Spielberg for listening to him). Keep that man away from everything I love please. I'm calling it here: the Disney Star Wars movies will be at least 10 times better than the previous three. I think that he gets confused as to why people like movies like Star Wars and Indiana Jones: it's because, while watching them, for just that moment, we feel like we're Harrison Ford, shooting Nazis and Aliens. Stop trying to fulfill your vision Mr. Lucas! Fulfill ours!
In no particular order:
* You have amazing taste in TV. Far more people need to see Better Off Ted. One of my favorites. And you like Doctor Who-- did you see the dalek in Better Off Ted? Have you seen this year's Christmas episode? Are you squeeing as hard as I am?
* I loved Skyrim, absolutely loved it. 200 hours worth of loving it. What disappointed you about it (and Jon, you should answer too)?
* Is Series 3 of Sherlock *ever* going to come out OMG withdrawal Moffat pls
And I was skeptical at first, but I'm now pretty damned stoked for the new Star Wars movies.
Skyrim: I kind of wonder if this is due to all the games I own BUT Skyrim was pretty good. It didn't grab me after a bit of playing it though. The story was pretty interesting I guess but nothing spectacular. I difficulty ramped up pretty high at one point and the payoffs werent that great so I kind of walked away.
My friend said I needed to get into smithing and I am doing that but it doesn't seem to have increased my interest much. I plan on coming back to it though.
Here is what I want from the next Elder Scrolls game: something less <\begin really big text> EPIC <\end really bit text>.
I liked Morrowind. If you want to be a trader, go be a trader. If you want to be a ninja, go be a ninja. The story was great in Skyrim, but I kept feeling that they wanted me to this Dragon Born character that I didn't want to be. If you want a story driven game, take away a bit more freedom and emphasize the story. If you want a true sandbox like you had in Morrowind, then let me be really and truly free. Don't limit my enchantments, don't regulate my potions, let me fly. Let me break the game.
Well actually, I kind of want the Bethesda pack but I haven't picked it up yet... Kind of thinking of waiting, but on the other hand....
But yeah, so far so good :D
Borderlands 2, The Penny Arcade Trilogy, and Dungeon Defenders DLC. I couldn't stop myself.
I'm trying to be moderate. Some deals are just too good to miss, but I'm not buying stuff just because it's cheap. So far I only got Darksiders Franchise pack, Saints Row: The Third Season Pass and bought some heavily discounted games to give away on SteamGifts. Still hoping to get Natural Selection 2, Immortal Throne expansion pack for Titan Quest and the complete edition of Dungeons of Dredmor.
I'm kind of hoping more games are added to the bundle as I paid over the average :)
@jdodson and you got your wish. :) 3 more games added to the bundle.
I, too, have been trying to control myself, but the Humble Bundle came out and I can't resist any of those. Also, my current gaming rig is a little underpowered for most AAA titles, so that's helped, too.
However, I did re-purchase Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit for the PS3 since the optical drive died a while back.
@bean I totally did. And they added some really great games too.
Your PS3 disc drive doesnt work? Whoa. Thats a huge bummer. I guess we could still use Netflix with it, but not BluRay? Whoa.
S'ok. I only have two BluRays anyway and a lot of my more recent games have been digital downloads. I had been using GameFly for disc-based titles to play some of the games I hadn't played before, so now I get to save $20/month.
And I'm past the point of paying another $270 for a low-end PS3. Blasphemy, right? Take away my gamer card now.
No. I think the PS3 is at the end of its life, so if BluRay isn't a big deal then I can see not replacing it. I really dig my PS3 a lot but the only game I still have to play on it I have not is Read Dead Redemption and thats because it didn't come with a PC port.
Still waiting for that. I'd pick it up. Is it the only one without a port?
Yeah, Rockstar said it would be released without a PC port. It made some sense to me at the time because console games way outsold PC. I wonder if they will break on that and port it?
Well, we have every GTA, all the Max Payne's, at least 2 of the midnight clubs, LA Noir, Bully.... no Table Tennis though (pretty good BTW). So ya, Table Tennis and Red Dead Redemption. Those are the two they did not port to PC.
... Gave in... Witcher2...Well, I liked the first one, let's see how this goes.
Awesome, interested to hear about how it goes. Seems like a cool game.
For a taste of what the game is like, watch the opening cinematic. It's... intense.
http://youtu.be/t_wWnLUgXvc
NSFW, well, unless you work at a morgue or something and people being killed in a horrific manner is just a normal part of your day.
Wow that is really intense. Putting that game on my list for sure now. Well, prob finish The Witcher first then move to the sequel. Nabbed the first Witcher at the time I was buying a ton of games at it was lost in the mix.
Did you play the original and if so how does this stack up?
The first one, if you can get through some awkward mechanics and a really creepy predatory relationship system, is pretty good.
The new one shares a couple problems with the original, but it has quite a bit of personality.
Beyond being a predator in a relationship, that sounds pretty good. Looking forward to checking it out.
It's fairly rainy in Oregon so it's a good time for some gaming!
Awesome picture above by ivanparas
http://www.reddit.com/user/ivanparas This holiday season? Some awesome person got me Borderlands 2 on PC so I have been playing that! The graphics are stellar on the PC. Anyone get anything awesome as a gift or from the Steam Sale they are enjoying?
It's fairly rainy in Oregon so it's a good time for some gaming!
Awesome picture above by ivanparas
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I got a Wii U. For the Wii U i got Nintendo Land. I played it for around 4 hours today.... I'm kinda obsessed with it.
That must be a really awesome person.
Also the big one I snagged was The Walking Dead. Looking forward to trying that out.
Dude! Awesome, looking forward to hearing your thoughts on that.
I picked up LA Noire. Looking forward to trying that out!
Awesome!
So far I only bought Resonance for like 2 dollars because I'm all kinds of poor at the moment. I really recommend it for any fan of classical point and click adventure games, it has good oldie looks, but the mechanics are a little different. :3 Primordia is also one I'm enjoying quite a lot, and it's made by Wadjet Eye Games also. <3
That all said, a few days ago I dusted off Warcraft III and have started playing though the campaign and have... Read All 12 years ago I got Warcraft III as a gift for Christmas. After I got it I immediately started playing it for the remainder of the holiday break. The game experience was so awesome for me that for the last few years around the holidays I have wanted to play Warcraft III again. Somehow when the Christmas tree goes up, my mind returns to Arthas epic struggle as a Paladin to Death Knight. I need to aquire Frostmorne and see his turn to a lieutenant of the Undead all the way to becoming their leader. Its just one of those odd things I associate with the holidays.
That all said, a few days ago I dusted off Warcraft III and have started playing though the campaign and have finished the human section and am starting on the Undead missions now. I remember how awesome it was to see Arthas turn 12 years ago and whereas the game looks a bit aged now, its still fun and all I remember loving about it is still present. I like the story of the Human Campaign but as a race, they are my least favorite.
The game is fairly inexpensive now as you can get the Warcraft III Battle Chest for less than $20 and if you like strategy games you could do worse. The game editor spawned many tower defense maps and one such map, Defense of the Ancients of DoTA started an entirely new genre of MOBA games seen in such greats as League of Legends and DoTA 2.
So ho, ho, ho and all that Undead awesomeness, because its Christmas and time for some Warcraft III.
It's impressive that you can still buy it new 12 years later for more than bargain bin prices. That's staying power.
I have a similar association with the Spider Man game that came out around the same time as the first movie, but actually based on the comics. I didn't expect to like it, but I was so into it. Every time I'm visiting my parents for Christmas, the music pops into my head.
Blizzard games seem to keep Dat price tag for longer than most. Plus they are still fun, years later.
Diablo II Battle Chest: $19.99 on Amazon. That game came out in 2000.
Yep. People still playing it too. I never really fell for Diablo 2, but it still has a pretty large following.
Immediately I was drawn into Spaceward Ho! as it was one of the first turn... Read All It may come as a surprise to some, but when I was a wee lad I loved video games. I played many amazing games on my NES and DOS Tandy computer. ZZT, Commander Keen, Zelda & Metal Gear were a few gems. When I was in the 7th grade one of my best friends Jason had a Mac. It was pretty amazing as it supported a ton of colors, had a really awesome sound card and I remember when his parents bought him a external hard-drive that was about 150 megs. He had a version of Wolfenstein 3D that graphically blew away the DOS version. He also had a space game I hadn't heard of before called Spaceward Ho!
Immediately I was drawn into Spaceward Ho! as it was one of the first turn based strategy games I was ever exposed to. In Spaceward Ho! you control the economy and military muscle of a space race. You explore and colonize planets, research and build space ships and acquire metal and cash. One stand out feature of Spaceward Ho! is the games simplicity. Not having 50,000 options means the game is boiled down to allow a quicker and more strategic game.
Over the years I have tried to get a version of Spaceward Ho! running on any platform I could. In High School I nabbed a DOS/Windows port. At University I played it on my color Palm Pilot. And recently I bought it on the iPhone. After a spending a few minutes acclimating myself to the port I was immersed back into the awesomeness that is Spaceward Ho! The game is still fresh and everything I loved about it is still present, 22 years later.
For the last few games I have played I have dropped to a small galaxy and go against one computer player. I am trying out quicker games to focus my strategy to improve my win chances in a larger galaxy. I may in depth in a later post on strategy but suffice it to say, I am having a lot of fun.
I recently emailed Ariton, the company working on the modern versions of Spaceward Ho! and they nicely hooked me up with Peter Commons, the original developer of Spaceward Ho! Peter and I are trading around emails discussing his involvement with Spaceward Ho! and I am really excited to bring it to you the interview when its finished. The folks at Ariton also agreed to answering some interview questions about the modern Spaceward Ho! incarnations so that will be coming as well.
Its totally awesome to be able to experience an awesome classic game on a new platform and triply rad to be able to talk to the people that made it!
*The screen grab above is from a recent small galaxy short game I completed.
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If you haven't tried Starcraft 2 yet, I recommend you get the Starter Edition:
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/3250656
Not only is it free, but Blizzard has opened up even more multiplayer maps in this version. The cool feature? You can play multiplayer with people that have the full edition! @panickedthumb and I have been talking about playing SC2 for the next game event because of this, so download the starter edition and give it a shot! Our friends over at Starcrafts cooked up a fun Christmas special!
If you haven't tried Starcraft 2 yet, I recommend you get the Starter Edition:
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/3250656
Not only is it free, but Blizzard has opened up even more multiplayer maps in this version. The cool feature? You can play multiplayer with people that have the full edition! @panickedthumb and I have been talking about playing SC2 for the next game event because of this, so download the starter edition and give it a shot!
I will openly admit, a tear came to my eye.
That's awesome :D
http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=50d6571ce4b091229a56c192
Please select your top 5 and the winner will be the highest voted game. I will also list out the others so we all know how it turned out.
Voting will be open today until December 31st and feel free to share this out with your friends!
*Yeah I linked the same video again, its totally awesome. Hey everyone. After collecting all the entries for this years Game of the Year, I have them now in poll form for you to vote on. Thanks to everyone that added games to the list.
http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=50d6571ce4b091229a56c192
Please select your top 5 and the winner will be the highest voted game. I will also list out the others so we all know how it turned out.
Voting will be open today until December 31st and feel free to share this out with your friends!
*Yeah I linked the same video again, its totally awesome.
Voted! Looking forward to the results.
Just voted. This will be cool.
Yep.
Any guesses what will take the first prize bacon?
I guess I should be explicit it will be virtual bacon.
Unacceptable. We should insist on giving them real bacon.
I wouldn't be surprised with Borderlands 2. I think it's my favorite, though it's a tough call.
Imagine someone opening a package of shipped Bacon! Haha that would be awesome!
The walking dead needs some more votes!!! Its gotta be one of the top 5!
Share this out with all your friends, anyone is able to vote!
Jon, it seems to have outright rejected your gravatar change.
BR! You are right! Don't let Borderlands loot lottery take the Cheeries again!
Yeah, I'll re upload the image. Odd.
Borderlands, while there is a ton of loot, is way more than a loot lottery. Probably my favorite this year.
But I haven't played TWD.
Look forward to playing TWD myself.
This list could be retitled "Games I want to play but haven't yet." I think the only one on the list I've played is Borderlands 2. So many games, so little time!
I'm just being pithy. I really disliked Borderlands 1 but I haven't played the 2nd. I think the loot system in the first one is total bunko and the quests were boring, but the skill trees were pretty good.
What made the loot system bunk for you? I found it pretty fun.
The quests in BL2 are much better this time around for sure.
The loot system was the basic Diablo-style loot with a ton more possibilities. I love it. People call it an arrow-comparison simulator a lot, and I can kinda see their point, but weighing the pros and cons added a lot.
I dig its simplicity. The game play is the killer feature of Borderlands, that and how badass certain battles can be.
The story in the first game wasn't too compelling but in BL2 the characters and story were much better!
I agree with BR. The Walking Dead for GotY!
Though I must say, I'm surprised Mass Effect 3 isn't on the list. For all the criticism about the ending, it is still a really solid game.
I didn't make it on the list because it wasn't nominated.
My basic issue with Diablo style loot systems is this:
It speaks of shitty design to me. By stimulating the casino/gambling bit of the gamer mind and playing on our desire to watch numbers go up, you avoid actually designing your game. Item drops can be powerful rewards for exploration or, in the best of cases, they can recontextualize the rest of the game.
Consider doing a side quest to get a powerful weapon in an RPG. You're rewarded for going out of your way and seeing more of the game. The developers choose how powerful it should be comeasurate with the difficulty of the quest and can tie it in thematically. I'm on board.
Consider finding a new item in Super Metroid. When you get a new item, you reconsider every area you've already been to because you have a new mode of traversal or ability. That game is very well designed.
And then think about finding a random, more powerful bit of armor in something like Torchlight 2 (which I really liked, btw). Even rare loot is usually not a huge jump in effectiveness and even when it is, it's gated by level requirements. So the pleasure you get is that of watching numbers go up and very rarely of a new ability, like a status effect of some sort. Those status effects are usually already available, without the numbers going up, from shops and the like.
The rare loot you get is barely more empowering than the loot you already had. You're just trading a viable strategy for a very slightly more viable one, with higher numbers, brighter colors and cooler names. Very little actually changes. The fact that it's random means it more or less happens continuously throughout the game. Rare loot is not rare. Playing Torchlight 2, I was finding rare and magical loot constantly. On a given run, I'd find 2 or 3 unique pieces of equipment. When I would find something really exciting, level limits and class restrictions undermine the very thrill that they're hoping to create. Because of this, the effect is a constant marginal increase in your character efficacy, that isn't tied to your actions. That's Progressquest. If you're going to be random, have the courage to be random. Then, at least, it's like a slot machine and you feel like you can really hit the jackpot.
It's also annoying to constantly have to be picking up trash items to sell as the games basic economy. Specifically with Diablo (haven't played 3, just 1 and 2), the rhythms of the game are set by trips to and from the market. It's a game about selling junk you find on the floor. Sometimes you get a nice bit of equipment that is VERY rarely a big jump up, but it's not because of your performance or for exploration or for anything you actually DID.
Interesting points @Gary, thanks for bringing them up. I want to respond to a few though.
I do find gambling fun. Its a thrill to go to Las Vegas and put money down and occasionally win. I mostly lose but then again, I don't go to Vegas all the time and when I do I limit how much I spend and its not much. That said, its thrilling and much more adrenaline packed than the average video game for me. That said, its fleeting and not as rewarding as something like Fallout 3 or Super Metroid that will stick with me my entire life. My point is, gambling is fun, but its not as impactful or even possibly life changing as an awesome and compelling story for me.
Secondly I think that any kind of Diablo style RPG needs to do more than just bring the loot. For instance, I kind of thought by the end game of Diablo 3 thats really all it brought. The loot and grind. Whereas that does give you some mindless fun for a bit and does really give the game a huge amount of time for some, I find it lacking.
I think Diablo like RPG's survive for me not on the grind, which as you say is a bit like Progress Quest, but they need to bring a few more elements. Gameplay(which in my opinion Borderlands fucking nailed to the wall and owned), your character being a Badass and the overall feel of playing game. Borderlands 2 also brought much more interesting quests and a fun story. The side quests do give you a better gun or shields like you mention, which I do think is pretty awesome.
I also don't like games that make you go back to town to sell gear to advance, that shit is lame. D3 had that a bit, but it was lessened somewhat. In the end I don't mind the gambling aspect if the game can bring more fun elements to the table. I mean if I didn't id play online slots all day :D
That said, there is a slot machine pull in Borderlands 2 in Moxxi's bar that I use to "get rid" of my money because buying in game items seems useless to me. That is fun because its like opening a chest and I get some good gear that way.
Again, I'm basing all of my experience on Diablo 1 and 2, Torchlight 1 and 2 and Borderlands 1. It's possible Borderlands 2 is different. Does it have stat/class/level requirements to undercut you when you win the figurative slot machine? That shit drives me bonkers.
I also like a lot of these games, but it's in spite of the loot side. What these games do really well, I think, are skill trees. I love character customization, I just don't want to pick up a whole lot of Shoulders of the North which grant +.03 frost resistance along the way.
Also, random dungeons generally don't seem to add much. It's sort of neat that it's different every time but are the layouts ever considered? Designed? Neat? Most of the time in those games, there are a lot of dead ends with pottery in them.
It's not that I'm against randomization. Consider something like Binding of Isaac where each item you get is random. The difference is there are few, if any, insignificant upgrades. Each item is a meaningful improvement or, even better, drastically changes the way you play the game. Diablo-likes are literal seas of meaningless upgrades.
@Gary, occasionally you pick up an item that is a higher level that you can use.
In BL1 and BL2, I can count the times I got gear higher than my current level could handle on one hand. The general rule is that a level 37 piece won't drop from any enemies below level 37, so you should be getting gear along the lines of where you should be. Now, you CAN go take on higher level enemies and this would probably happen more often, but that's a recipe for repeated death.
And like Jon said, while I think the gear system is interesting, it isn't what makes me play the game. I don't care about the grind, I care about the gameplay, and they nailed it hard. The humor is great (thanks to the new writers headed up by Anthony Burch) and the quests are interesting. The gunplay mechanics work very well, and some of the pros and cons you get from the skill tree are fantastic for playing the game differently.
Interestingly enough, after getting through the main game and the two available DLCs, I started up playthrough 2 today. It levels up with you, so it's advised not to take any sidequests until you're 50, so that you can get the best loot from them for taking on raid bosses and such. Just blasting through the main quest is really quite fun, and I am rarely even worrying about loot unless it's something I want since, as Jon mentioned, money is no factor after maybe 6 or hours.
Voting is now closed thanks everybody!
We had a lot of amazing entries. Some funny and heroic name entries, and some great personal stories and epic tales from the world of Torchlight. It was tough, but Nayelianne was our favorite! Her entry really put us in her mind while playing Torchlight, and showed us how important and awesome her experience was, as well as the disappointment with not having multiplayer. She evoked feelings we've all had gaming at one time or another, I'd imagine.
http://cheerfulghost.com/Nayelianne/posts/790
The random number generator at random.org gave us Pavel_Krzystyniak's post. His epic tale of heroism was also high up in our... Read All We've done the tallying and come up with the winners!
We had a lot of amazing entries. Some funny and heroic name entries, and some great personal stories and epic tales from the world of Torchlight. It was tough, but Nayelianne was our favorite! Her entry really put us in her mind while playing Torchlight, and showed us how important and awesome her experience was, as well as the disappointment with not having multiplayer. She evoked feelings we've all had gaming at one time or another, I'd imagine.
http://cheerfulghost.com/Nayelianne/posts/790
The random number generator at random.org gave us Pavel_Krzystyniak's post. His epic tale of heroism was also high up in our list when trying to choose our favorite, so it was very serendipitous that random.org chose him.
http://cheerfulghost.com/Pavel_Krzystyniak/posts/848
Congrats to both of you, and congrats to TheCrimson on winning the SteamGifts giveaway! http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/9ev8Y/torchlight-ii
Its been a great batch of entries, thanks to everyone that entered. Going to be hard picking out a winner from them!
Thanks sir Thumb, thanks Spock, that was fun! Congrats to other winners!
I just changed my avatar actually. I realized I have been meaning to make it me for sometime and just didn't get around to it. BACK TO REGULAR OL JDODSON! :D
Still Spock here, I guess gravatar takes a few minutes to update.
I GROW IMPATIENT!
Damn, I got used to Spock.
This is the best surprise ever. Thank you so much!
I just wanted to state that, winning aside, the site name was certainly a suitable choice, because my experience with it has been nothing but cheerful indeed!
From the moment I joined I noticed the staff has been very thoughtful towards its users, and I hope this community will grow as beautifully as it deserves <3
I hope so too @Nayelianne, enjoy the game!
Congrats to the winners!
At first I was interested in this, a Ratchet and Clank platforming tower defense game? That could be pretty awesome, but clearly you didn't think it was.
When you get into the platforming is it timed or just not enough time? I think its a cool idea to break up the Tower Defense with platforming though, kind of a between stages thing where you could get power ups and such. Interesting idea for sure.
The platforming is between waves, but there's not really enough time to explore.
My biggest complaint is that this is only marginally a Ratchet & Clank title. It could just as easily have been Jak & Daxter, Kratos & Athena, Sly Cooper & Bentley or anything else. The platforming, puzzle solving, shoot-from-the-hip wackiness isn't there.
Additionally, the asking price is $19.99 with a whole slew of $1.99 addons for multiplayer skins. Just feels like Insomniac was looking for a fast buck. That's just my two ¢.
I got it for Christmas, but I haven't played it much yet (just a quick hour or so co-op with my daughter). It was fun, but the split screen for co-op is annoying, especially after All4One with it's easy co-op. Also, FFA is only 2 player co-op on the same ps3, which fully disappointed my daughters (we played a lot of All4One via 3 player co-op)
I wouldn't worry too much about Insomniac abandoning the series, every few R&C titles they do a much different one. The last time they did that was the battle-zone focused one (Deadlocked)...
@hardeyez That's a great point about the series. I didn't play any co-op and that could dramatically change the gameplay as one player could gather resources while the other builds defenses.